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Lord-Enzo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi,

 

today I upgraded to Mountain Lion, and everything seemed fine with the system, until I had to check Time Machine.

 

I already had many problems when upgrading to Lion since I'm using a Western Digital 4Tb Sharespace to save my backups. But now, in Mountain Lion, when i tried to backup, it simply didn't let me. I decided to start fresh, as I didn't need the old copies, but now, with everything deleted (and the RAID re-created for this purpose, so perfectly new) when it is going to mount the drive, it says that the disk is not available.

 

Checking the console it says "error 19", but I cannot find what that error exactly means, just some wonderings and roundabouts for other people's problems (which aren't exactly mine)

 

Any solution? Is it Mountain Lion, or Sharespace's Firmware?

 

Thanks


Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion, Sharespace 4Tb NAS
  • 1. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (118,005 points)

    If you have more than one user account, these instructions must be carried out as an administrator.

    Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the page that opens.

    Select "system.log" from the file list. Copy the words "Starting standard backup" (without the quotes) on this page and paste into the String Matching text field. Note the timestamp of the last message shown. Clear the text field and scroll back in the log to that time. Post the messages timestamped from then until the end of the backup, or the end of the log if that's not clear.

    Post the log text, please, not a screenshot. If there are runs of repeated messages, post only one example of each. Don't post many repetitions of the same message.

    Some personal information, such as the names of your files, may be included — edit that out, too, but don’t remove the context.

  • 2. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Lord-Enzo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Nothing just searching for "Starting standard backup" only these two:

     

    Jul 26 00:39:40 MacPro-Enzo.local com.apple.backupd[2759]: Starting automatic backup

    Jul 26 00:39:42 MacPro-Enzo.local com.apple.backupd[2759]: Backup failed with error: 19

     

    And this one when trying to force the backup (hitting Backup now from the menu bar icon, as I didn't want to wait the 120 seconds after changing the disc in the System Preferences):

     

    Jul 26 00:42:34 Mac-Pro.local com.apple.backupd[2759]: Starting manual backup

    Jul 26 00:42:34 Mac-Pro.local com.apple.backupd[2759]: Backup failed with error: 19

     

    And, just in case, some of the things that the log outputs when configuring Time Machine:

     

    Jul 26 00:41:13 Mac-Pro.local UserEventAgent[11]: com.apple.backupd-auto launchd job disabled

    Jul 26 00:41:13 Mac-Pro.local UserEventAgent[11]: com.apple.backupd-wake launchd job disabled

    Jul 26 00:41:13 Mac-Pro.local UserEventAgent[11]: com.apple.backupd-attach launchd job disabled

    Jul 26 00:42:21 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: AFP_VFS afpfs_mount: /Volumes/WD_Backup, pid 2800

    Jul 26 00:42:21 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: AFP_VFS afpfs_mount : succeeded on volume 0xffffff80d6ce1008 /Volumes/WD_Backup (error = 0, retval = 0)

    Jul 26 00:42:21 Mac-Pro.local UserEventAgent[11]: com.apple.backupd-auto launchd job enabled

    Jul 26 00:42:21 Mac-Pro.local UserEventAgent[11]: com.apple.backupd-wake launchd job enabled

    Jul 26 00:42:21 Mac-Pro.local UserEventAgent[11]: com.apple.backupd-attach launchd job enabled

    Jul 26 00:42:22 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: AFP_VFS afpfs_unmount: /Volumes/WD_Backup, flags 0, pid 2806

    Jul 26 00:42:22 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: AFP_VFS afpfs_unmount : We are the last mnt/sbmnt using volume /Volumes/WD_Backup 0xffffff80d6ce1008

    Jul 26 00:42:22 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: AFP_VFS afpfs_unmount : We are the last volume using socket /Volumes/WD_Backup 0xffffff80d6ce1008

    Jul 26 00:42:34 Mac-Pro.local com.apple.backupd[2759]: Starting manual backup

    Jul 26 00:42:34 Mac-Pro.local com.apple.backupd[2759]: Backup failed with error: 19

  • 3. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (118,005 points)

    You're backing up to a third-party NAS, or trying to. If it doesn't work, your only recourse is to the NAS vendor. I suggest that you stop trying to use the NAS with Time Machine and back up to locally attached external storage devices instead.

  • 4. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Lord-Enzo wrote:

     

    Hi,

     

    today I upgraded to Mountain Lion, and everything seemed fine with the system, until I had to check Time Machine.

     

    I already had many problems when upgrading to Lion since I'm using a Western Digital 4Tb Sharespace to save my backups.

    Were you able to back up to it in Lion?  If not, or if you didn't try, your NAS may need a firmware upgrade.  Check with WD.

  • 5. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Lord-Enzo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, I was perfectly able (what I mean is that I had problems at the moment of upgrading, with all the Netatalk changes introduced in Lion). I just won't let me log in now, either with my Mac Pro or my MacBook Pro (both upgraded to Mountain Lion).

     

    I can see the files in the "normal" shares, but Time Machine cannot access the Time Machine specific share when trying to mount it to start backing up. It finds it when selecting the device from a list to configure the service, and even checks the user/password correctly, but when trying to mount the drive, it just says that the disk is not available, and the Console gives me the previous error.

  • 6. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    That sounds like it's unable to mount the sparse bundle.

     

    Have you tried repairing it, per #A5 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting?  The Verify Backups option probably won't work;  use the long procedure.

  • 7. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Lord-Enzo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No, as there is no sparsebundle, I'm starting fresh.

     

    That's when I tried the MBP, thinking that maybe some old .plist or something might be messing around, I tried with the laptop because I've never done a TM backup with it, but it do not connect either, same error

  • 8. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Lord-Enzo wrote:

     

    No, as there is no sparsebundle, I'm starting fresh.

     

    Oh, sorry, I missed that in your original post.    (It's been a looooong day here.)

     

    I don't know much about NASs, but at least some models of WDs have a reset button and default login.  You might try that.

     

    Otherwise, all I can suggest is check with WD.

  • 9. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Lord-Enzo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I think I'm going to post it in the WD forum, but last time (upgrade to Lion) they weren't very helpful!

     

    Thanks for your help!!

     

     

  • 10. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Efthymakis Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I had the same problem, and found this great blog that resolved my issue, give it a try  http://www.trollop.org/tag/afp/ .

  • 11. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Lord-Enzo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You also have a WD Sharespace?

     

    I tried what you said, but with no success... There are different things to do in here:

     

    If I try to do the backup in a specifically created share, it will display this error:

     

    Destination does not support lock stealing. (error 45)

    The backup destination could not be set.

     

    But, actually, the system does the copies in another directory, which is hidden by default "/DataVolume/.timemachine/" with a special user created for that purposte (WD_Backup is called). This is the way this NAS does things, so I don't really know how to mount the drive manually, as I don't know where it is located.

     

    Using the command "showmount" it does not show any mounts available other than the ones I created myself.

     

    Also, discovered by Bonjour, I can see "Alexandria" (which is the name of the drive) and "Alexandria-Backup" which the one (supposedly) used for backups, but the system won't let me log in that drive (it will only let the Time Machine application log in that mount).

     

    I've posted this also in the WD-Community. If I get an answer I will keep you posted. Thank you for your help.

  • 12. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Efthymakis Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    yes, i too have a WD Sharespace, but the procedure should work for any remote backup device. 

     

    By default the WD Sharespace creates a hidden share called 'WD_Backup' and a user called 'wd_backup' with a default password of 'backup'.

     

    Using the example in the blog : sudo tmutil setdestination afp://user:pass@host/share

     

    ...and assuming the following (all default settings with the exeption of the WD Sharespace Server name) -

      Server Name: TimeMachine

       Volume Name: DataVolume

       User: wd_backup

       Password: backup

     

    you should execute the following at the terminal:

           sudo tmutil setdestination afp://wd_backup:backup@TimeMachine/WD_Backup

     

    In addition, you can validate you are using the correct UserID/Password, by:

    - Launching the Finder and click on 'Go' from the menu

    - Click on 'Connecto to Server...'

    - in the Server Address field, enter: "afp://TimeMachine/WD_Backup" and click 'Connect'

    - you'll be prompted to enter the UserID and Password to the share; assuming you have not changed either, the default is UserID: wd_backup and Password: backup.

     

    If your machine cannot resolve the TimeMachine Server name, then replace "TimeMachine" with the IP address of your WD Sharespace Server.

     

    ..this will mount a drive to the WD_Backup folder, underwhich you will find the <machine_name>.sparcefile that TM uses to store your backup.  All this is covered in the WD Sharespace User Guide on page 46 under the TimeMachine configuration section.

  • 13. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)

    Lord-Enzo wrote:

    . . .Destination does not support lock stealing. (error 45)

    The backup destination could not be set.

    That means it's not fully compatible with Time Machine on Mountain Lion.  See if WD has an update.

  • 14. Re: Mountain Lion won't let me create a new Time Machine backup
    Mack N Tosh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Backup works here on a Toshiba external 2.5" 750gig USB drive but it did not see previous backups. That's ok because I'll just back the whole thing up again, 10 gigs of applications and data. And there really isn't much wrong with Mountain Lion that I'd want to uninstall it other than some of the new features taking a bit of time figuring out and one app needing an upgrade to work in 10.8.

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