Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2012 2:28 PM (in response to MHaddon)
I tried to download this morning and received the smae messege, any help would be nice. Apple for the extra help $29.99 like Lion was great. price drop to $19.99 and service declines. WOW the difference $10 make. I'd hate to go back to Windows in the next year or so I still have an all-in-one Lenovo Desktop waiting to be be used.
MacBook 13-inch, Late 2008
Processor 2.1 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Graphics Intel GMA X3100 144 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4 (11E53)
1 TB SATA Disk
Model Name: MacBook
Model Identifier: MacBook4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.1 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MB41.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.31f1
Hardware UUID: 5D880BE5-50EE-5E3A-A8C0-965716AEBC07
Sudden Motion Sensor:
System Software Overview:
System Version: Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E53)
Kernel Version: Darwin 11.4.0
Boot Volume: Lion
Boot Mode: Normal
Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
Time since boot: 2:32
ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abiLast login: Wed Jul 25 22:54:04 on console
DYNAMIC-CONSULTANTS-ENTERPRISE:~ DCEAPPLE$ ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi
| | "firmware-abi" = <"EFI64">
2 x MacBook, 2 x iPad 2, 2 x iPhone 4 loyal mac user/sucker for QUALITY
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2012 4:44 PM (in response to MHaddon)
I COME IN PEACE
Is not that I am upset of anything. But can someone HIGH UP THERE read this?
I would not even mind in go buy a new mac and "obey" to the pattern APPLE is forcing their faithful clients into.
My TWO problems are:
THE LOCK IN THE JAIL CELL - if I bow and go buy a new laptop / desktop of whatever, I am accepting the fact that APPLE has won and has power over me to do as they please and has turned me into their consumerism slave.
REPEATING OFFENDER - Let's say I tuck my tail between my legs and go running to the nearest mac shop to buy a new Mac. TODAY with the specs that are required to run the latest operating system... what about tomorrow? will this happen again? will there be next year a new forced upgrade?
I used to be a proud Mac user. I got iPhones, iPads, iPods, Macbook and even at work because I am a designer I work with an iMac (which I recommended the company to purchase). I always told everyone how great Macs are ... now I feel BETRAYED. I feel like i'm being pushed into a trap.
I didn't bother and didn't see it coming when I had to buy the iPhone 4 because my 3GS was not good enough for iOS upgrade... but this? My Macbook is perfectly fine and FAST, lots of storage lots of RAM. And this is the thanks I get...
Apple, get your game right, this is even lower than what Microsoft did to their users for decades.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2012 5:01 PM (in response to yomacau)
Valid points. For years, I railed against Apple's engineered obsolescence, even setting up online protest groups and informational web sites featured in print magazines and online publications. None of it mattered. Apple's current hardware is less upgradable than ever. They reject open standards adopted by other hardware manufacturers.
But they also do this to meet market demand. You can't replace the battery and drive in the new rMBP mostly because consumers are demanding thinner and lighter machines. You can't build a laptop that thin using standard 3.5" hard drives. So in this sense, it's the best compromise they can figure out.
American society at large runs on two-year cell phone plans. That means most American's get new cell phones every other year. iPhone 4 owners can skip the 4S but should plan on upgrading to the 5. If you try to skip two phone generations, you'll be left behind with the OS. For computers, you can hold off a bit longer, but every household budget should plan for a new machine every three or four years. That's the cycle, and it won't change soon.
It's important to remember, however, that you don't always need to upgrade. I have an old Mac in the hobby room happily chugging away on OS 9. If your machine still runs the apps you need, why feel compelled to upgrade the OS?
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2012 5:31 PM (in response to MHaddon)
Welcome to the world of expensive disposable hardware. Apple's hardware lifecycles are ridiculous. Even the 2010 Mac mini is not fully compatible with Mountain Lion. The upcoming iOS 6 can't be installed on 1st-gen iPads, which were released just two years ago.
Apple should just do away with hardware sales and move to a product subscription service where you pay an annual subscription fee and they send you a new model every year with the new software already installed. Way to go green, Apple, just keep your customers dumping their obsolete hardware into the environment at an ever-increasing rate.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 25, 2012 5:36 PM (in response to Apple2029)
For what it is worth, Tech Tools Pro 6 reports the "built date" of Mac computers, as well as the location (China of course).
I have Lion running on a fairly old Macbook Pro. It has mediocre performance. I won't be "upgrading" to ML.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 26, 2012 12:16 PM (in response to WAKAMA)
go and post your thoughts and concerns about this to every single article, blog & forum you can find out there on this topic (as I have already done) to get a wider discussion going outside of this forum, since this is not the proper place to discuss it.
... here's one place you can start: http://gmtechstuff.blogspot.com/2012/07/os-x-mountain-lion-is-not-compatible_26. html
Currently Being ModeratedJul 26, 2012 7:21 PM (in response to a brody)
My Mac Pro is newer than 2008 and mountain lion says its not compatible , but I also own a iMac and 3 MacBook pros, two of them are identical, but only one loaded MBPro and imac loaded mountain lion?
Apple store genius staff can't explain either.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 26, 2012 9:31 PM (in response to MHaddon)
I also think betrayed is the best word. I've loved my Mac Pro from day 1, but now I've regret I ever bought it.
Apple hardware isn't worth the money if they only support some small amount of hardware they have.
Computers, like cars, last for more than 4 years.
How hard could it be to open up, put the old drivers back in OSX 10.8 and keep the spirit alive
I've send my feedback to apple.
If this is what it takes to get back to Microsoft Windows in a few months, they've done a realy good job.
Currently Being ModeratedJul 30, 2012 2:49 AM (in response to MHaddon)
I have a mid-2010 MacBook Pro which has an i7 processor, 16GB of RAM, and a 512GB SSD which has over 50% free - I find it very difficult to believe this hardware spec will not support the new AirPlay... seems like a play to arbitrarily force an upgrade to a new machine for a computer so new it's still under AppleCare. They did a similar thing when they desupported the iPhone 3G in iOS, phones less than 3 years old were effectively no longer supported with security updates, etc. At this rate, soon they'll stop supporting OS updates and only ship new OS versions on new machines...
Currently Being ModeratedAug 7, 2012 1:42 AM (in response to MHaddon)
Like woodmeister said:
Express your discontent here:
I doubt it does much good to complain about this problem here. My company does software development for Apple users and a lot of them, especially those with fairly recent (and costly) Mac Pro's find themselves out in the woods. When you look at the system requirements, which are as follows:
- iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
- MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
- MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
- Xserve (Early 2009)
- MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
- Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
- Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
you need to keep in mind these are the RELEASE dates of the systems, not when people bought them. For example, it's quite possible someone bought a 13" MacBook 2007 model in 2008, or even the early part of 2009. That really isn't that old - not old enough to be obsolete IMHO.
Give Apple constructive feedback and maybe they'll fix the problem. I've heard of people using Leopard on old Titaniums that weren't supposed to be supported and yet they apparently work, so something changed as the OS progressed.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 7, 2012 5:45 AM (in response to MHaddon)
I've posted when the ML came out and demonstrated my unhappiness regarding the fact that my gorgeous Mabook white early 2008 could not update. But I have good news!! I AM SAD ANYMORE!! and none of you who could not update should be (sad, unhappy, revolted, traumatized or with toothache) because my company paid the update cost for the "brand new shiny ML" which turned out to be... useless. NOTHING / NADA.
Really! I feel so much better, I work 8 hours+ with the iMac at work, its a beautiful machine, but it was already beautiful with lion.
ML came and honestly all it did was to add a notifications bar on the left of the screen which I barely use because I am not a social network fanatic, it updated to alpha the beta version I had of iMessage (which I have on the Macbook and has no changes whatsoever) and sincerely didn't see any improvements. Other than that it is much more connecte to the iCloud. Another money making machine of Apple... 'cause they give you some free space then bling ca$hing!! ! ! AH! one downside, I used to work with VMWARE FUSION to cross test my websites and now puf! Is not compatible anymore.
There are 200 something new changes bla bla bla... well guys! This updated should have been FREE and dont even know why they allocated a new feline to the system because it is pretty much Lion with a few more things that will make you pay for more.
So, all in all, I am super happy still with my sexy white laptop. It has all the updates I need and those which came with the Mountain Lion, I almost don't use.
Ah! forgot to say, there is facebook integration, WOW! $20 for facebook ahah! Mr Jobs must be really disappointed with the team to whom he left his legacy.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 10, 2012 11:05 AM (in response to deckstarz1)
Wait a sec...I have an 06 Macbook Pro.
Sorry, that's too old. MacBook Pro is mid/late 2007 or newer: http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/
When everyone says Mac Pro, are they talking about the server or the macbook pro. Sorry, confused and trying to get Mountain Lion.
Very different animal: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_pro
And it must be early 2008 or newer.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 31, 2012 9:24 PM (in response to deckstarz1)
If your Machin is built in O6 it’s a PowerBook Pro. Not a MacBook. If the machin has rounded corners and a batterry pack that can be removed by pushing in some latches. on the bottom you have a PowerBook. It is still a PowerPC machine.