Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 4:41 PM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
If the Aperture Library and your OSX are on the same volume, then 10 GB is not much free space for every contingency Aperture might worry about.
In as far as limits on an Aperture Library, I have not found it. I have one Managed Masters library that exceeds 1.1 TB, and contains over 65,000 masters, mostly RAW NEFs.
More info, please.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 5:22 PM (in response to Ernie Stamper)
Thanks for the response Ernie. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "same volume". I have a 500GB external hd and a Time Machine connected to my iMac. My import settings in Aperture 3 are to store photos in the Aperture Library. Does that mean they would be in the same volume?
I appreciate your help.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 5:29 PM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
Presumedly your iMac is booting from its internal drive -- correct? What disk drive did you say has 10 GB free space?
Storing photos in the Aperture Library implies you are using a Managed Masters Library, but does not tell me how or if you have created this library on the external drive?
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 5:40 PM (in response to Ernie Stamper)
That is correct, I am booting from the internal drive, which has about 10GB of open space. I'm assuming that this is most likely the problem. The external drive does not contain any aperture files and has plenty of available storage space (over 290GB).
How would you recommend freeing up space on the internal drive - should I move the "Master Library" in Aperture to the external drive?
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 6:11 PM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
I would recommend getting really familiar with some of the user manual about storing masters and locating a Library.
I think you will want to use the Relocate command in Aperture to move some of the master files to the external drive. I say some because you have not said how large the internal drive on the iMac is, nor the actual size of the Aperture Library which would primarily be made up by the master files for each image. If you moved them all, then you might exceed the free space on the external drive quickly.
More info, please.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 6:21 PM (in response to Ernie Stamper)
As you can tell I am fairly new with Aperture so I will definitely review the manuals. As for my internal HD size, that is also 500GB and as I mentioned is nearly at capacity (using about 487GB). I'm not sure the exact size of my Aperture library, but it contains about 23K photos.
I'll take a look at the manuals regarding storing/relocating masters - it sounds like I just need to free up space on my internal hd which I will do by relocating masters once I review the correct way to do so.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 6:26 PM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
You should be able to find the Aperture Library in the Finder, and with Get Info observe the total size of the Library.
But you definitely need to free up space on your internal drive. It cannot function for hardy any purposes with only 10 GB free.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 8:09 PM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
I am booting from the internal drive, which has about 10GB of open space. I'm assuming that this is most likely the problem.
you really need to free space on your system drive, not only for Aperture's sake. The operating system needs free disk space as well, and if you run low on disk space, you may notice considerable a drop in performance. I try to keep at least 10% of any disk free, and 20% would be even better, if you could manage it.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2012 11:04 PM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
Hard dries slow as they fill and become unstable at some unknown point; handling large chunks of data can become problematic. And less-than-ideal RAM will exacerbate HDD issues.
As a guideline I strongly recommend not exceeding ~70% full. Having just 10 GB free HDD space you are asking for a data-destroying crash. You should offload data to an external drive immediately. Do not try to work until you have at least 100 GB free space on that internal HDD.
Of course often a boot drive will still function 90+% full, but not always. And overfilled HDDs are always slow.
Hard drives are dirt cheap now. There is no reason to put data at risk by overfilling hard drives.
Solid State Drives (SSDs) do not suffer from the same limitations as HDDs but still need some free space available.
23k D90 photos is not very many. Buy a 2-TB external hard drive and reference the photos to your external HDD by (from within Aperture) relocating the originals/Masters to the external HDD. In addition original image files must be separately backed up to yet another drive. In the future do that backup of originals before importing into Aperture.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2012 4:39 AM (in response to SierraDragon)
Excellent advice. I advise everyone to buy HD in pairs. Use one for your Referenced Originals, and one to back up that drive regularly.
The paired drives don't have to be identical, but should have the same capacity. Use a relatively fast drive for the Referenced Originals. The back-up drive does not need to be fast.
Given the low price of drives today, I just buy matched pairs.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2012 5:17 AM (in response to Kirby Krieger)
Thank you everyone for the help.
It definitely sounds like my internal hard drive is the issue. I spent time last night reading the manuals and have a much better understanding of Aperture's organization and workflow, using the Managed and Referenced Images. Knowing I need to free up space on my internal drive, what is the best way to do this without risking losing any master images?
My thought was this: Select the "master library" within Aperture and create a smart library that filters only Managed Images, which would be all my masters. Then I can take the smart library filled with my masters/managed images and export that to my external hard drive to store. Should I then move all the images within the smart library inside Aperture to the trash for deletion? Basically, I am trying to determine the safest way to store master files on the external drive, still be able to reference them within Aperture for editing without deleting any masters.
Hope this makes sense - any suggestions would be appreciated.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2012 7:35 AM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
If you use the Relocate Masters command, and create/select a new folder on the External, Aperture will keep track of the location and linkage.
I would feel better if you could free up some space by deleting some things away from Aperture, where the operation is a simple Finder one. Aperture can often need lots of temporary space to carry out operations, and your free space is at a critical low.
Are there any large files, like videos, that you could simply copy to the external and then delete on the internal drive before asking Aperture to do anything?
A good alternative would be to buy a new External drive, format it for OS X Extended, and with the Finder move or copy the entire Aperture Library to it, prior to switching to use of Referenced, for safe backup at least.
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Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2012 8:00 AM (in response to Ernie Stamper)
Thanks again Ernie.
My internal HD consists mostly of my photos in Aperture and music in iTunes. I don't have many videos as I have alerady relocated them to the external drive. Would it be better/easier to relocate my iTunes library to the external drive? Again, my fear is that I would lose access to the music I have already purchased.
What would be your concern with using the Relocate Master command to place a Masters folder on the external drive and just use referenced masters in Aperture? Also, if I were to do that, would the Masters automatically be deleted from the Aperture Library (internal drive) or would I need to manually move them to the trash to remove?
Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2012 8:25 AM (in response to justinfromcincinnati)
If you Relocate masters, they would be moved, and you would not have to do any manual removal.
My concern for your doing this while so short of internal disk space is that Aperture might temporarily need more space than is available, and malfunction. Down the road there is no concern for having an entirely Referenced Library with the Masters on the External.
How large is your iTunes Library?