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Is anyone besides me still running Snow Leopard and extremely hesitant about upgrading to Mountain Lion?

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Aug 6, 2012 1:53 PM

My MBP is a mid-late 2009 model and is the best laptop ive ever had.


I have had no problems with it whatsoever! Ive been reading all the reviews on Mountain Lion since it was released and ive read so many complaints that it takes "older MBP's" to a crawl and that certain applications or software wont work.


Are there any fellow SL holdouts who have made the upgrade and are genuinely happy with it?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (221,035 points)

    If you are able to use your computer for what you need to do; and the computer and software are functioning well, then there's no need to upgrade OS X.

  • Bob the Lobster Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    I am 36 hours into this install and still not successful (in a install>reboots with 2 minutes left>install loop). Very frustrating. I was getting more regular kernel panics on my mid-2009 MBP (5,5), and decided I'd dive in to ML, skipping Lion. Still have fingers crossed but I am getting cross.

  • softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    I also have a 2009 MBP. I went from Snow Leopard to Lion this time last year, and within a few months went back to SL. I've now gone from SL to ML. It doesn't slow my computer down or have anything other than minor bugs which will be ironed out in the point updates over the next few months.


    I can only agree with what Kappy says, which is if your computer does what you need it to do and works without problems, why bother upgrading? I don't really have much use for all the features in ML. I just upgraded to test it and play with it. I still miss SL and haven't abandoned the idea of reinstalling it in the next few months. It has more versatility (I can run Parallels 6 and Windows on it, as well as some old PPC apps) and is rock-solid stable.

  • henleygraphics Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    I have a late 2009 MBP, and I primarily run Snow Leopard on it.


    Last year I updated a second HD to Lion for it which I didn't like, so I stuck with SL. This year I updated the Lion to Mtn Lion on that drive, I was not impressed. While the system works, and I didn't notice a slowdown on Mtn Lion; I think that there may be multiple issues for me using it so I am not switching. SL still performs admirably as far as I am concerned.


    I did a completely clean install on the HD, and had too much trouble setting up my email accounts. Then the wireless seems to be slightly less robust, but I have not been using ML enough to understand where that might be coming from. I am still irritated about the lack of a decent 'SaveAs' functionality too ...


    Unless you have a big need for the new features of ML, or do what I did on a second drive, I'd wait out upgrading until the bugs are worked out of it.


    The one thing which does work well on ML is Parallels 7 and a Snow Leopard VM IF you can live with their limitations and lack of interoperability.

  • bsamu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I think the best thing to do is to upgrade to ML if you really need to. But the jump from Snow leopard to mountain lion is amazing: iCloud and Facebook integration, new apps (notes, reminders, Game Center) new safari update, iCloud tabs and notification center! I am really happy with Mountain lion and I also updated from snow leopard to Mountain lion! But it's as you want is your money!

    But if you have iOS 6 I would upgraded !



  • tweetzero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Don't do it, just don't do it-at least not right now!.  If you think you might need ML, think again. Many of these posts go back to July, 2012, and there has yet to be a responsible update from Apple that fixes the big issues: WiFi dropping off, network problems, no-wake from sleep, screen saver problems, battery life hindered and erratic.


    You, are in the Catbird seat right now, you are doing the right thing, by scouring through these posts, (don't forget to check the huge inventory on Mac Rumors while you're at it), BEFORE you take the plunge, and plunge it is.


    I have a late 2009 17"MBP which was, until three weeks ago  my best Mac to date.  It just soared on Snow Leopard.  Downloading ML was a regrettable choice, a big mistake.  I wish I hadn't done it, period.  The choice to do so has been very costly, it has completely engulfed my time and my life for over three weeks now.  Reading ad-nauseam to find, then try, solutions that would stay fixed, instead of using my MBP for work has been mind- altering-by-frustration, alone. 

    I've tried a bucketful of recommendations offered in various posts.  Okay, and yes, so far to date with finger's crossed, I've been able to find 'work around's' for many of the issues. Seemingly, many of the problems have disappeared which would make one believe that I have been successful at fixing them. We shall see.


    Apple is long over due to release an update that can fix the myriad of problems with ML.  We're waiting, many have been waiting since last summer.    Go to the posts that have tens of thousands of views, read the first few pages and you'll see for yourself.  The initial problems still prevail, and Apple's pretty mum about it, to no one's surprise.

    Do not be lured by the bells and whistles, iCloud, new app's and notifications that ML has to offer over Snow Leopard. Wait until Apple releases 10.8.3, read the reviews posted here, then think about it.

  • Eric Root Level 6 Level 6 (13,885 points)

    What I did on our two computers was partition the hard drive so that both Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion can be used on the computers. This allowed me to be able to retain/use older applications and games on the Snow Leopard partition. This will allow you to do a clean install of Mountain Lion on the newly created partition. The Mountain Lion installer has a button that allows you to select another drive so you don't install it over Snow Leopard. I cleverly name one partition Snow Leopard and the other one Mountain Lion so I wouldn't confuse the two (I never claimed to be smart).


    To partition, you need to have sufficient free hard drive space (I suggest 50 GB minimum). Boot off the Snow Leopard DVD or the disks that came with the computer and use Disk Utility to partition your hard drive into two partitions. If you plan to make Mountain Lion your primary OS, then you can reduce the size of the Snow Leopard partition so most of the free hard drive space is available for Mountain Lion.


    After getting all that sorted out, I found that while booted in Mountain Lion I could access the Snow Leopard partition. That allowed me to drag file and applications from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. Applications that won't work with Mountain Lion will be grayed out with a slash through them.


    Not all Mountain Lion features may be available. The Apple support article below covers that:



    Mountain Lion doesn't act like Snow Leopard. For example, scrolling is reversed, but if you spend enough time in System Preferences, you can get the OS to be mostly like Snow Leopard.    


    Using some workarounds, I can access Mail, Calendar (read only), and Address Book/Contacts on the Snow Leopard partition using iCloud, which I use every night.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,380 points)

    Eric Root wrote:




    Mountain Lion doesn't act like Snow Leopard. For example, scrolling is reversed, but if you spend enough time in System Preferences, you can get the OS to be mostly like Snow Leopard.     

    Which can also be reversed, thus making the scrolling the same as Snow Leopard, or not, your choice.

  • Lanny Level 5 Level 5 (4,165 points)

    I've been using ML on a MacMini 3.1 (Late 2009) and a MacBook Pro 3.1 (Mid/Late 2007) since ML was introduced. It works just fine.


    It runs on the MacBook Pro noticeably cooler too.


    My 3rd party softwares are all up to date enough to run natively on Intel processors.

  • Dried Apple Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Think about the features you use the most and check out how they work in Mountain Lion.


    This is a bit of a long story but for the first time using Macs I think I will uninstall an upgrade. My little network was working fine. I'm also not keen to upgrade the server to Mountain Lion and risk messing up features that have been working well.


    I am disappointed to find that Calendar and Reminders are two separate apps in Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8.3). But I am more disappointed that I didn't think to check for discussions about this issue before upgrading. I didn't think to check on iCal in Mountain Lion because iCal was working so well. If it ain't broke why change it?


    I have a little network of three 2011 model iMacs that had been running Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6.8) with Snow Leopard Server on a Mac mini. We don't share files as much as diary entries and our to-do lists. We are very happy with how OS X 10.6 handles this.


    There are a couple of pieces of software that I would like to use that only run on Lion or Mountain Lion so I thought I'd upgrade one of the iMacs to Mountain Lion. After the upgrade Calendar appears to have picked up the iCal data on the iMac and our shared iCal data on the server but not the to-do list items. It appears from the discussions that no provision has been made to import the data into Reminders. Strangely, some completed to-do items appeared in Reminders.


    After my first shutdown and next startup of the iMac I also encountered the frozen dialogue box "Upgrading calendars …" which some of the discussions mentioned. Calendar quit OK and I re-opened it without the dialogue box appearing again. Calendar is a big window too that doesn't seem to be able to be reduced down much.


    Some years ago I used an application called Now Up-to-Date on various Macs running OS 8. It combined a calendar and to-do list that could be shared on a network but the network features didn't work with OS X in Classic mode. It wasn't until later versions of OS X that iCal incorporated the combined features. Some of the discussions suggest that separate Calendar and Reminders is a backward step.


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