Christopher Williams1

Q: Safari will not update

My iMac is using Safari 5.0.5, but I can't update it. When I run Apple Software Update, it tells me everything is up to date. So, how do I upgrade Safari to 5.1.7?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jul 30, 2012 6:50 AM

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Q: Safari will not update

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  • by Paul_Ob,

    Paul_Ob Paul_Ob Jul 30, 2012 7:46 AM in response to Christopher Williams1
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    Jul 30, 2012 7:46 AM in response to Christopher Williams1

    I noticed this too after doing an erase/install of Snow Leopard.  It used to be available via software update, but not any more.

     

    Probably another way for Apple to "encourage" people to abandon SL OS for Mountain Lion.

  • by Christopher Williams1,

    Christopher Williams1 Christopher Williams1 Jul 30, 2012 7:53 AM in response to Paul_Ob
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    Jul 30, 2012 7:53 AM in response to Paul_Ob

    According to this tech doc (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222), it is supposed to be a part of my current OS. My Mac book at work has the correct version however.

     

    I noticed another thread about the combo update doesn't have it either.

  • by baltwo,

    baltwo baltwo Jul 30, 2012 1:15 PM in response to Christopher Williams1
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    Jul 30, 2012 1:15 PM in response to Christopher Williams1

    Apple wants you to use the new, but unimproved, Safari 6. AFAICT, 5.1.7 is available on the web. Just search for it. BTW, I still use 5.0.5, having no use for iOS or iCloud compatibility.

  • by Christopher Williams1,

    Christopher Williams1 Christopher Williams1 Aug 1, 2012 5:14 AM in response to baltwo
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    Aug 1, 2012 5:14 AM in response to baltwo

    If this is the case, that's very worrisome.  As a developer, I depend on users being able to update their browser (or at least knowing the baseline which we will support it, IE7 on XP, etc). This is the first time a browser vendor has downgraded browser support for an operating system.

     

    There are other differences between the two versions in terms of rendering CSS support and performance. Lots of issues in 5.0.5 were resolved with the update.

     

    This is really disappointing.

  • by roam,Helpful

    roam roam Aug 1, 2012 5:32 AM in response to Christopher Williams1
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    Aug 1, 2012 5:32 AM in response to Christopher Williams1

    It is amazing that current software brought out this year is no longer current and has to be scrounged elsewhere. 5.1.7 is still possible at this link. Or maybe a torrent

    http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15675/apple-safari/

  • by Mikeintosh Pro,

    Mikeintosh Pro Mikeintosh Pro Aug 7, 2012 1:00 PM in response to roam
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    Aug 7, 2012 1:00 PM in response to roam

    Just wanted thank you roam for solving this issue for me as well.  It would be better if Apple would fix Software Update as Safari is not the only app effected by this.  At least iTunes will update itself, not sure if any other apps are effected besides those two yet.

     

    Been having all kinds of fun just trying to reinstall Snow Leopard -

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/19194504#19194504

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/19195169#19195169

     

    Yea, about as much fun as installing video drivers by hand in OS/2 back in 1994.

     

    So happy I spent over $5000 with Apple over the last year or so just to be shafted because I don't jump on the newest releases immediately like a trained circus seal.  I value stability and workflow, that's why I was downgrading from Lion on this iMac.  Wifi never worked right under any version of Lion (perfect again btw on SL) and auto save was a real drag when you are working with 2400dpi TIFF files.

     

    I was looking to take Mountain Lion for a spin on my other macs, but if these are the kinds of issues I will be dealing with moving forward, I have to take a long hard look at switching platforms or at least avoiding Apple software in favor of cross platform solutions that offer me flexibility (and shinny discs that I can use if something goes wrong).  It makes me sad since I've been using macs since the SE/30 and Apple II's before that.

     

    I know this isn't the proper place for this rant, but it has been a real frustrating day and I wanted to vent. 

  • by roam,

    roam roam Aug 7, 2012 4:12 PM in response to Mikeintosh Pro
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    Aug 7, 2012 4:12 PM in response to Mikeintosh Pro

    I  have read your other posts and understand your frustration. Personally. I don't want anything to do with the Mac Aoo store.

    I don't like the content model and will stay on 10.6. 

     

    Here's a general tip; Before I do an upgrade, as on this iMac from 10.5 to 10.6, I always make a clone that sits on an external hard drive. Having this, there exists the option of reverting back to your previous OS, by cloning the clone back to the original drive, if you want to change things back.

     

    Today I think 10.7 10.8 has a restore partition in the cloud, but my head's not there and neither are my files..

  • by Mikeintosh Pro,

    Mikeintosh Pro Mikeintosh Pro Aug 7, 2012 10:15 PM in response to roam
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    Aug 7, 2012 10:15 PM in response to roam

    I agree that backups are a must. I do keep bootable clones of my system discs, plus multiple copies of any important data.

     

    However in this case my backups were not helpful.  I was downgrading from Lion to Snow Leopard due to continuing issues that had never been resolved to my satisfaction.  Slowly I missed Snow Leopard more and more.  It had been nearly a year since I ran Snow Leopard, so my older backups were written over by Lion backups.  All the apps I had a problem with restoring on the fresh Snow Leopard install were apps that had been updated under Lion to versions that required 10.7.4 +

     

    I guess in the future I will need to make sure to keep separate copies of each and every revision of all applications.  This will be a must for anything purchased from the App Store since these apps may be updated at anytime to new versions that are now incompatible with the OS version you are running.  All this with no option to reload the compatible version you purchased.  This is a real eye opener as in my case I purchased a version of Pages on July 15th that would run under 10.6.8 and now less than one month later I cannot even reload it on my system.  I don't expect free updates forever, I just want the version I paid for.  Guess it's called the cloud because it's made out of vapor and can dissipate at any time.

     

    The end result is, that unless this policy changes, I will not purchase any apps from the App Store that are available for sale elsewhere.  If an app is only available on the App Store, then it will have to be a truly killer app for me to even consider it.

     

    The really sad part is that I could easily resolve my issue with Pages and Keynote in about 10 minutes by visiting a body of water that certain sailors with eyepatches call home.  Thus far I have been at a serious disadvantage by being a paying customer and by trying to resolve this issue legitimately with Apple.  As a long term Apple supporter, this is very disappointing.