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Keynote 5.2 Not Loading New Custom Themes

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Aug 16, 2012 11:10 AM

Yesterday I created a custom theme in Keynote 5.2 (running under the latest version of Lion, I have not updated to Mountain Lion yet), saved it as a theme to the location where all of my previous custom themes have been stored by the previous versions of Keynote, quit Keynote, relaunched Keynote, and that new custom theme was not shown in the Theme Chooser. I also found a old custom theme that needed to be edited. I started a new presentation with that theme, revised the masters, and saved it as a Theme replacing the original kth file. I again quit and relaunched Keynote and discovered that the theme was no longer shown in the Theme Chooser. I looked in the folder (buried deep in "my user" Library Application Support) holding my custom themes and verified that both kth files were present. I tried restarting the computer - still not there. I tried shutting down and booting back up - still not there.


Has anyone else experienced this issue? Has anyone reported it and started a case on the issue? Has anyone figured out how to correct the issue? Has anyone figured out how to force Keynote 5.2 to re-find, re-index, or update the Theme Chooser so new custom themes show up?



  • DVDThemePAK Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)
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    Aug 16, 2012 2:41 PM (in response to Secstage)

    Whats these themes exact location?

    Did you check the permissions for them and for the folder enclosing them?


    Working with a similar project as well.

  • DVDThemePAK Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)
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    Aug 16, 2012 10:29 PM (in response to Secstage)

    Yes the commercial themes should be stored here:


    ~/HD/Library/Application Support/iWork/Keynote/Themes/


    However this location isn't created upon installation of Keynote 5.1 or 5,2 - it may have been a holdover from earlier versions of Keynote. I plan to have my themes install here as well.  Internal stock themes are all stored in the application itself. I'm pretty sure there is no cache for theme locations but rather a directive somewhere in the App itself.


    Have you tried a variety of different themes saves from Keynote 5.2? Different sizes and with different base themes and/or different elements? Doubtful that this is the issue as it just sounds like its something to do with 5.2 running inside Lion. Have you tried a re-install of Keynote? Try deleting existing iWork folder and re-installing 5.1, then maybe try some theme saves or see if 5.1 recognizes the 5.2 saves at all before upgrading to 5.2


    Those are things I would probably try.

  • Robert Hurt1 Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Aug 24, 2012 5:35 PM (in response to Secstage)

    Wow, this is a thorough analysis. I haven't tried it out yet, but thanks for documenting this all for the community.


    I am mystified why Apple would leave this bug open for so long as customized themes are the first thing any advanced user would want to create.


    I hope you've also copied this entire analysis into an entry on the feedback page for Keynote!

  • DVDThemePAK Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)
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    Aug 24, 2012 11:47 PM (in response to Secstage)

    Yes I discovered the same thing you did Secstage, but there is an easier way to fix it or rather go around the problem. You will notice if you save a theme out of keynote as a package you get a different result.


    If you save as package then you won't get the themeMetaData file as you discovered, but if you save as a non-package zip file then you will. The problem that sometimes happens with the package zip files are they often don't have the /Contents/Resources/Previews or /Contents/Resources/en.lproj


    For most people these aren't important except for the preview images as you explained, but for me as a developer they are a bit important.


    I actually had some of these same problems in 5.1.1 too.

  • DjiBee Calculating status...
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    Sep 5, 2012 8:29 AM (in response to Secstage)

    This is the definitive workaround! Thank you so much... I've been experimenting a while, but never tried to use zipped themes instead of packaged ones. Very strange bug that seems to be the symptom of a bad design in the code (creating the files should be independent of the final on-disk structure). Anyway, thanks SO MUCH.

  • Stamatis Kapetanakis Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Mar 17, 2013 6:01 AM (in response to Secstage)

    Thanks for the responses to the thread guys - unticking the 'save new documents as packages' has fixed the problem of custom themes appearing in the theme chooser.


    For the non-experts like me, what are the drawbacks of doing this?

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