Currently Being ModeratedAug 15, 2012 10:11 PM (in response to BEFlynnPE)
Just bring back the scroll arrows. They are important functionally and add to the user experience. Not having the arrows available for use with a mouse is not something Steve would have approved of in that it frustrates the user and is a poor experience!
And yes I like gestures too.
Haven't returned in Mountain Lion, so don't hold your breath. I have not missed them after what seems an eternity and have just moved on. All the younsters I know who have been introduced to Macs through Lion, have see no other way so therefore have nothing to adjust from. We can either change our habits or use less updated systems and hardware. I know people who have done both. But at present, they are not an option in Mac OSX. It doesn't seem to matter how many users sent feedback, they have not returned.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 15, 2012 11:36 PM (in response to steve359)
It is terrible be old and grumpy
I don't consider almost 72 to be old. Now, WRT grumpy, not so, just discerning and knowing what works for me. i've been dealing with these beasts since 1961 and have used most input devices, but the mouse does the job better than all the others.27" i7 iMac SL, Lion, OS X Mountain Lion, G4 450 MP w/Leopard, 9.2.2
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 6:24 AM (in response to baltwo)
No offense intended.
"Grumpy" is often the name given to those who do not follow every latest trend just because someone says to. Somehow "I know this does not work" is being ignored these days.
And age is all up to the person, regardless of the calendar count.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 8:03 AM (in response to steve359)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 2:54 PM (in response to baltwo)
Only your opinion too.
Only your opinion. The mouse is flawless on my machines. Finger-waving is useless, for me. i don't do iOS devices or laptops, especially ones that can't be taken apart or have missing ports and optical drives. There are already reports of a carpel tunnel syndrome associated with trackpads and other such devices. Different strokes for different folks.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to babowa)
Well, there is only one mouse that my hand likes: an old Macally which I hope will last forever since they no longer make that model.
Grumpy?? Not part of my vocabulary......
My problem with the trackpad is that it's response is much affected by finger condition, Immediately after I wash my hands it is unresponsive and sticky, then follows a period where it is OK, then it gets worse until I wash my hands, wait for the sticky time to pass and then it is OK again. I really want to like it but when I am in a hurry, or short tempered I go for the Magic Mouse.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 4:30 PM (in response to Csound1)
As I said, I decided to sell it because it rarely actually worked for me (basics such as opening a file) and I also really wanted to like and use it. So I took at hit (loss) on it.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 7:57 PM (in response to BEFlynnPE)
Gentlemen, we made all be grumpy old men one day (sorry ladies), especially if we have tom try to nudge the screen up or down one line at a time with the mouse when there still are no arrows at the end of the scroll bar. I admire Apple's ongoing quest to marry form and function into the best user experience to be found. I still don't believe that Apple would sacrifice usability simply for form and will find a way to incorporate this single point scrolling for the mouse into the scroll bar.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 16, 2012 8:02 PM (in response to BEFlynnPE)
If you will click your mouse at the same time you drag the bar up or down, it'll move up and down very quickly; another way around are the arrow keys on your keyboard - they work as well.
The arrows are not coming back; I sent in a bug report some time ago and the reply was "the behavior is as designed". I've also not heard of a hack, but good luck finding a way.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 17, 2012 8:51 AM (in response to BEFlynnPE)
you may not be old enough to remember the apple hockey puck mouse or their many other designs based on form over function.