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Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

I can understand why having the Reminders app on the Mac would make new users moving from an iPad feel more at home.

But what about the rest of the Mac users that have been users for decades??? 

 

 

I think the problem I'm having is that the To Do lists (Reminders) have been removed from the right side of iCal (Calendar in Mountain Lion) in favor of this new dismal 2nd app strategy…  I see no reason why the new reminders app couldn't co-exist with Calendar and it's right side To Do list column so that we the users have the choice. 

The Reminders app even has a "Calendar" in it, proving that Reminders should maybe still be in the Calendar app and not separated out.

 

 

Another problem is that if I use separate lists to organize Reminders, the app doesn't even have a way to see all my reminders at one time?  What a pain!   In iCal I could not only see all my reminders I could color coded them by Calendar (list).

 

 

Also, 99% of my Reminders never have any Time, Date or Location info associated with them, so the nice new notification center dos not show them and I'm stuck forgetting about them because they are out of sight hidden away in the new awful extra Reminders app… 

 

 

On an iPad or iPhone with the limited screen sizes, I can see the need for separating the info out into another app, but the screen size of most Macs is not an issue so it makes no sense to take away what was working perfectly in favor of the iPad way of doing it. 

 

 

The layout and function of iCal in Tiger was the best for Efficiency and Workflow and I would love to see that return.

 

The way it is now just makes me sad at how much time I wast at clicking extra buttons to edit things or swapping apps or windows around on screen.

 

Very Sad.

 

 

Anyone else feel the same?


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion
  • 1. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    William Lloyd Level 6 Level 6 (19,355 points)

    I find Reminders much easier to use than the old iCal sidebar, personally.

     

    If you have separate lists in Reminders, would you really want to see _everything_ at once?  I'd think if the lists weren't related (i.e. I have one for errands and one for movies to watch, and one for books to read... when does it make sense to view them all?).

  • 2. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    frankinmelrose Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Agree - I have about 30 different calandars, mostly because I use them as project heading to break out my todo list.  Haven't looked much at Reminders in Mt Lion, but haven't used it at all in iPad.

     

    And the reason to see them all at once (and with dates) is because I have multiple "high priority" todos, and I often need to choose between them to pick the next thing to focus on.  Its hard to do that if you can't see them all at the same time.

     

    Frank

  • 3. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

    Thats great, but the sidebar in iCal worked better for me and I'm baffeld as to why it had to go.  If I liked it I could turn it on and if ou didn't like it you could turn it off and both of us would be happy, but now I'm stuck doing it the new way and it's just dumb.

     

    Separate lists in Reminders is ok, but yes there are plenty of times I want to see all reminders at once. In fact for me a list of all of them color coded worked better.

  • 4. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    engine00 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Brian—I completely agree with you. Apple should have left the Todo list functionality in Calendar where it belonged. It's completely user- UNfriendly to 1) remove existing functionality;  2) to do so from an application where one intuitively expects a todo list to be. Now I have to open up yet another application to figure out what I have to do for the day or week or month, when I already have the Calendar app open?

     

    The Reminders app might make sense on an iPhone (but I don't even use it there because it's so clunky), but makes zero sense on an actual computer.

     

    Apple: Please don't turn my macbook into a glorified iPhone—I actually have to do real work on my computer.

  • 5. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

    I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way!!!  

  • 6. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    iFGL Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Brian - I also agree with you. The most annoying thing for me about the Reminders app is the lack of time zone support. When you add a task, the reminder is set for the time zone you are in when you create the task. Not useful at all...

  • 7. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

    Now if only more than just 4 of us thought that the new seperate apps are a huge step backwards, we may get it back to the way it should be.  Like the left side calendar list that was gone in Lion and has returned.

  • 8. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Király Level 6 Level 6 (9,475 points)

    Have you looked at BusyCal as a replacement for iCal/Calendar? It integrates Reminders, does iCloud, and a bunch of other things too. And it even looks good, without Apple's 1981-inspired leatherette look. It's a bit pricey at $50, but is often offered in MacUpdate promo bundles for $50 with a dozen other apps. I got mine bundled with Parallels Desktop. It's a winner!

  • 9. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,420 points)

    I totally agree with BusyCal as a replacement, it is excellent ..... +1

  • 10. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

    I gave it a try for 30 days and although it is what Apples iCal/Calendar should be.  Some anoyances about it as well as the price made me end up not stick with it.  Things like the tab key moved between days instead of events, there was a constant sync indicator blinking and spinning in the calendar list, etc. It just didn't feel polished enugh yet. 

  • 11. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,420 points)

    Brian Dodds wrote:

     

    I gave it a try for 30 days and altogh it is what Apples iCal/Calendar should be.  Some anoyances about it as well as the price made me end up not stick with it.  Things like the tab key moved between days instead of events,     

    Moves between events on mine, alway has,

     

    There was a constant sync indicator blinking and spinning in the calendar list, etc.

     

    I see the Screen Shot 2012-09-07 at 1.45.04 PM.pngindicator during a Dav update or a Sync, but not constantly, only when things change

     

    It just didn't feel polished enugh yet. 

    I don't share your opinion on that one.

  • 12. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

    Hmmmm   I primarily use Month view and remember going crazy when Tab would go between days and not between the events in each day.  So if your in Month view and hit Tab it's moving between events for you?

     

    My sync indicator would never stop spinning and blinking. It was going constantly.

  • 13. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,420 points)

    Brian Dodds wrote:

     

    Hmmmm   I primarily use Month view and remember going crazy when Tab would go between days and not between the events in each day.  So if your in Month view and hit Tab it's moving between events for you?

    Yes (just verified it in case my memory went haywire) on me. As for the sync indicator I guess the amount of time 'in action' will vary with regard to # of accounts, # of calendars, internet speed and probably other factors I have missed. It's also true that I generally hide the sidebar, preferring to have the extra space available.

     

    Polish seems to me to be more of a personal taste issue really, the leather look Apple calendar doesn't bother me but I started using BusyCal while it was in beta and I still need it's extra functionality so I stayed with it. It seems cheap now.

  • 14. Re: Reminders app is Dismal
    Brian Dodds Level 3 Level 3 (705 points)

    Perhaps I will give it a try again at some point.  

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