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  • 15. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    MacPcConsultant Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Petermac:

     

    Perhaps you should read the links provided above.  The authors of the two programs indicate that Apple's OS controls their program, and as such, a password is required.   Thus the burden is back on Apple, so please stop indicating that this "has nothing to do with Apple".

     

    The feedback link is mostly a joke and is an exercise in futility and placation.  I have a list of 85 silly errors in the Mac OS and included apps.  Two examples recently posted here:  https://discussions.apple.com/message/19368044#19368044  and  https://discussions.apple.com/message/19371105#19371105

     

    You have said your piece, and I've read the advice, but that does not preclude the need for software improvements.  Never said I don't wish to follow.  Only stated there shouldn't be the need.

     

    "Cheers"

  • 16. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    hpr3 Level 5 Level 5 (5,710 points)

    There is no "burden" on Apple to provide you with a fix. Your problem is just nonsense.

  • 17. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    Tell Apple and stop being a child about it. The burden is on the 3rd party developers. You are trolling now.

     

    Bye

     

    Pete

  • 18. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,125 points)

    Apple and Unix will never allow running with elevated root permissions  without a viable password, so your complaint is pointless, since it violates all kinds of security provisions. If feedback's a joke, file via Apple's bugreporter system. To do that, register as an Apple Developer—it's free and available for all Mac users and gets you a look at some development software. Since you already have an Apple username/ID, use that. Once a member, go to Apple BugReporter and file your bug report or enhancement request. You'll get a response and a follow-up number; thus, starting a dialog with engineering.

  • 19. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    MacPcConsultant wrote:

     

    Not kill, but require the intensive care unit.

     

    Separate from all the above, Apple should have a user preference which allows no password required at anytime for anything.

    i have a feeling Apples'a legal dept will disagree.

  • 20. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    MacPcConsultant Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    No complaint is pointless.   This is how progress occurs.  Developer ?  Great idea.  Thank you.   A programmer-friend said in response to this thread he can make a patch which will solve this issue.

     

    Thatnk you baltwo.

  • 21. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,125 points)

    A bug report isn't a complaint, but a notification that something's amiss. No BRs/ERs, no fixes/changes. Your choice.

  • 22. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    MacPcConsultant Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    A bug report is indeed a small complaint.  Period.  Will do everything:  BRs, ERs, postings, fixes, patches, and changes.

  • 23. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    Excellent post, baltwo, but all responses after that prove the OP has no intention of doing something even as 1st grade simple as using a one letter password.

     

    I don't see any point of anyone responding any further to MacPcConsultant.

     

    But one more try.

     

    If you're a consultant, you must realize that OS X is built on top of UNIX, which is, and always has been all about security. What you propose is no security whatsoever to run apps that can be very destructive. That's a security no-no. If that's the only kind of system you want to use, then use Windows. Everything has root access all the time, even apps you don't know are running.

  • 24. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    MacPcConsultant Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Understood everything you said, and knew it all.   It doesn't change anything.  But no problem.  The programmer has been successful.  Tomorrow I'll keep a blank password and still run those two utilities.

     

    Silly to talk about "security" of UNIX MacOS since a boot disk easily changes the password.   That's no big security.

  • 25. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    MacPcConsultant wrote:

     

    Understood everything you said, and knew it all.   It doesn't change anything.  But no problem.  The programmer has been successful.  Tomorrow I'll keep a blank password and still run those two utilities.

     

    Silly to talk about "security" of UNIX MacOS since a boot disk easily changes the password.   That's no big security.

    I am so thrilled at your success in achieving the ultimate in stubborn laziness. Your posts have helped me a lot, I showed them to my kids and taught them how not to have a stuckup attitude like yours, so from all your ramblings came something positive. Now onto people with real problems and no imaginary developer friends.

     

    Oh and mark the thread as answered by yourself, so nobody else needs to waste time here.

     

    Cheerio

     

    Pete

  • 26. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    Silly to talk about "security" of UNIX MacOS since a boot disk easily changes the password.   That's no big security.

    I'm finding it much more difficult to believe with each of your posts that you are any kind of consultant. If you are, you can't be very good. ANY system can be compromised when you're sitting in front of it. The object, more than anything else is to prevent intrusion from the outside.

     

    With a password requirement, a destructive Terminal command which requires system access cannot run. It will have to stop for an admin password to proceed. A destructive GUI program that needs access to the System or Library folder will be stopped by the admin password dialogue box.

     

    I really don't see why you can't use a one character password. I've been doing it for years. I admit, it was hard at first. I was very afraid I wouldn't remember it the next day. After a couple of weeks, I was feeling pretty confident that it was sinking in. Years later, I'm almost positive I've got it down.

     

    It's rare, but I know there is a disease that causes bones to be so brittle that even mild pressure can cause them to break. I would have to assume you are afflicted with this since pressing two keys instead of one could cause you to have to be admitted to "the intensive care unit".

     

    But for a serious answer, grow up.

  • 27. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    MacPcConsultant Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi Pete:

     

    Problem solved by the programmer.  Glad this thread helped your family.

  • 28. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    Ha ha. You are almost amusing for a Troll.

    You can't have been much good on a computer to have to hire a personal programmer. That's the wildest delusion I have read here but makes for riverting reading. For other children.

    Pete

  • 29. Re: Nuisance--- admin password required for Onyx or Cocktail
    hpr3 Level 5 Level 5 (5,710 points)

    Just a heads up. As you can see the hosts have heavily edited this thread. If you want or need help in the future, letting this thread die would be a good start. That way people may forget it provided they don't browse your posting history.