Currently Being ModeratedSep 10, 2012 7:38 AM (in response to The hatter)
from the one you suggested earlier.. Since i live in Brazil, these things come quite pricey and hard to find.. therefore i need another good solution for a processor substitution. that is better than the original nehalem 2.8 quad-core, a six core to start off, and that is not too expensive..
Currently Being ModeratedSep 10, 2012 8:50 AM (in response to The hatter)
That does not solve my question nor my problem.. I already have a Mac Pro which i bought in march this year.. I am now working to upgrade it, graphics card, processor, memory etc... I have aleady purchased new 1333 modules which are working at 1066 because of my processor and upgrading it to a model that accepts 1333 modules would give me a double boost, processor and memory at the same time...
Currently Being ModeratedSep 10, 2012 11:52 AM (in response to willp1)
You are right Willp1,
What I need is a suggestion for a cheaper cost-benefit, six core processor other than the expensive westmere W3680 that apple recomends. The one above is supposed to be a good alternative, what i needed to know is if its compatible and a good choice..
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2012 12:19 PM (in response to gols92)
Unless you are doing rendering, these Macs (including yours) are rarely limited by compute-power. They are most often I/O limited.
If you have not already created a separate Boot Drive, with only System, Applications, Library, and the hidden unix files including Paging/swap on it, you should do that right away. It will make everything faster because it reduces competition for the drives.
Move the user files off, using a recipe like this one:Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), & Server, PPC, & AppleTalk Printers
Currently Being ModeratedOct 21, 2012 2:42 PM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
I have 2 HDD`s, one is empty with only the system files and is through this one that i do the booting. The other drive has all the files and is named Macintosh HD 2. I do lots and lots of rendering and sometimes I notice a reduction in iMovie performance. The main reason for my question is because i would like to perform a hardware upgrade on my Mac Pro to make it faster in an overall sense.
I have already purchased 8GB of 1333 RAM but they are only running at 1066, only waiting for a processor that accepts 1333 RAMs.
I would like to know if this processor is good enough or is the W3680 the right choice? I live in Brazil and these things come in really expensive here, the W3680 has a huge difference from the E5649. I just dont know if they are compatible and all...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2012 6:21 AM (in response to gols92)
Do you have 3x8GB RAM?
Two disk drives may not be enough.
Invest in scratch disk for one thing.
Make sure the system is not used as primary scratch volume for each app.
I said go PC because they do have cheap fast Sandy Bridge and later processors
I've used Windows 8 for a year. I never touch the candy, never different and only better than 7 was in 50 ways. Serious. It is just an OS on top of the hardware and for your apps. Lots and lots of choices and sources for hardware in Brazil that you won't find for Apple products and upgrades, off the shelf. Computers are tools. If Linux can work for you fine. And those that are desperate enough go hackintosh. I don't and can't recommend it.
Make specifically what? more RAM and disk arrays help. PCIe SATA for faster and more storage. SSDs even - not just for system but scratch or Aperture library
You won't see or feel difference in RAM in real world More RAM usually until the system can't cache and CS6 or other apps don't. But less than 16GB you probably do.
Wish there was a mandatory list of hardware, software used, upgrades. Generic "want faster" doesn't tell the story.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 24, 2013 4:20 PM (in response to gols92)
If you're looking for the jump in performance I do believe you can upgrade to any chip that's listed as optional on the Mac Pro specs. You'll want the 2x6 core chips for the 1333Mhz speed bump in Ram, which are the W3680, the X5650, the X5670 and the X5675. All of which should work with your '2010' Mac Pro as all of the Mac Pros 2009-2012 share the Intel X58 chipset/mainboard.
Again, don't follow my words like scripture, there could be some inherant compatibility with certain chips. I'm in the same boat as you with a 2010 Pro and will probably be doing something similar later this year.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 25, 2013 5:48 AM (in response to SiredSon)
Thank You very much for the reply..
The thing is... I live in Brazil, and prices here for electronics are sky rocketing high so these options you gave me are completely out of reach. But it was good to know some other models to look for. What about the E5649? or the E5650? they are 5.80 GT/s and are six cores, but the processing speed goes as hgh as 2.53Ghz... not so great huh?
Currently Being ModeratedJan 25, 2013 10:16 AM (in response to gols92)
The 5000 series are used in Macs with Dual Processor chips. If you do not have Dual processor chips already, you cannot use those.
You have not convinced me that your problem is a lack of processing power. Many Mac Pros are Input/Output bound due to not enough drives working at once. Many more do not perform because they do not have enough memory for the tasks running at the same time, and they are simulating RAM with s-l-o-w disk Reads and Writes..
First determine if you have enough real RAM. This article will help you:
Then determining if you have enough processing power. This article is a start, but Activity Monitor also has a floating bar graph that you can invoke.
Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime, affect performance, and increase heat and fan activity
Both articles are available in other languages if you prefer to read them in Portuguese, for example.Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), & Server, PPC, & AppleTalk Printers
Currently Being ModeratedJan 25, 2013 10:58 AM (in response to gols92)
So buy what is available on t he PC market. They run great and stable and because t here are more users out there. We have had someone from Brazil with exact complaints.
And US$600 for any 6-ccore from Intel is darn cheap for i7 or W3xxx though you can get fully outfitted 'gaming' systems with excellent specs for $US1200. Whether you use Windows or not or something else is up to you. But if $600 seems prohibitive then workstations aren't for you to begin with is how I see it. They may be relics for all but more demanding and a 2013 iMac might be suitable. Maybe there is a good used market for yours.