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CSchnuffi5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi,

 

i have a question to the iPhone 5 Sim Tray.

My problem is that my provider can't deliver Nano-SIMs.

He mean it is possible at January 2013.

 

So now i cutted my Sim from Micro to Nano.

It works great in my iPhone 4.

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But now comes the big question.

 

I think the iPhone 5 Sim Tray is a metal tray.

 

Could i have short circuits when i insert the cutted sim in the iPhone 5 Tray?

Or has the tray a isolation like the iPhone 4 tray?

 

I hope anybody can help me.

 

Thanks.

  • 1. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    cowandgate Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Probably "liquidmetal" combining strenghts of metal with properties of plastics. So its probably insulated.  http://www.liquidmetal.com/

  • 2. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    brandonlundh Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    If your carrier is an Apple Carrier Partner (offical carrier offering iPhone), they should have a nano SIM available for you by the time the iPhone 5 is released in your country. If they do not, you may want to explore your options with other carriers.

  • 3. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    cowandgate Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The OP said:-

    "My problem is that my provider can't deliver Nano-SIMs.

    He mean it is possible at January 2013."

    So problem for OP is using his (cut down) micro SIM right now. 

     

    I am in this same situation, the "official" Apple partner cannot say when the SIMs will be available even though the phone is released 21st Sept!  They refer to some vague dates "around October".  

  • 4. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    CSchnuffi5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is no Option. I have 2 years contract with my provider.

     

    I need only Informations about the Sim-Tray.

    The iPhone 4 Tray was isolated.

    The iPad not.

     

    So now is the question has the 5 a isolation or which material is it?

     

    The Phone Body is Aluminium 6000 but also the Tray?

  • 5. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (37,810 points)

    If your carrier is a supported carrier, believe me, they will have NanoSIM's for phone sold by them or by Apple specifically for them on release day. What they may not have is a surplus of SIMs to give to people who purchased an iPhone 5 elsewhere.

     

    The material the tray is made of doesn't matter as you can NOT cut a MicroSIM down to work in the NanoSIM slot. The NanoSIM is thinner as well as smaller. You would have to sand it down, which will most likely destroy the electronics in it.

  • 6. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    CSchnuffi5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No my carrier has at the moment no Nano-SIMs.

    They plan it for January 2013.

     

    And it is possible.

    Yes i've cut my sim to nano.

    And yes i sand the sim (you have only sand 0,09mm so not much)

     

    The SIM has now the Nano specs and yes it works in my iPhone 4.

  • 7. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (37,810 points)

    So how do you know that your SIM will work since the only device on the planet that uses the NanoSIM at the moment is the iPhone 5 and you don't have one?

     

    When the iPhone 5 is released in your country, the supported carriers there will have NanoSIMs for phones sold in your country.

  • 8. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    CSchnuffi5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You don't will unterstand it or?

     

    The Nano-SIM is the same SIM like Micro or Mini.

    They changed only the size and made this a little bit thinner (0,09mm for example a hair is 0,05-0,07mm).

     

    I've adapt the micro to the complete Nano specs.

     

    So the card is working in my iPhone 4.

     

    The only questions what i now have is which material has the SIM Tray?

    Is there a isolation?

    Could i have problems with short circuits.

     

    Yes i know that a lot of providers have nano-sims.

     

    But not my provider and he can deliver at January 2013.

    And no i can't change my provider i have a 2 years contract.

  • 9. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    b j t Level 4 Level 4 (3,670 points)

    iPhone 5 confirmed to use nano-SIM, current SIMs not compatible.

     

    The "Micro SIM" is too thick to fit in the iPhone 5.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module#Formats

     

     

    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/buying-advice/mobile-phone/3380824/apple-iphone-5-nan o-sim-what-you-need-know/

    But the difference in thickness, even just 0.09mm, may cause problems when a cut-down micro-SIM is inserted into an aperture designed for a nano-SIM.


    I knop that 0.09 mm is not a large difference in thickness, but will add up to be too thick if you try "jamming" one in the iPhone 5.

     

    SIM cardStandard referenceLength (mm)Width (mm)Thickness (mm)
    Full-sizeISO/IEC 7810:2003, ID-185.6053.980.76
    Mini-SIMISO/IEC 7810:2003, ID-00025.0015.000.76
    Micro-SIMETSI TS 102 221 V9.0.0, Mini-UICC15.0012.000.76
    Nano-SIMETSI TS 102 221 V11.0.012.308.800.67
    Embedded-SIMJEDEC Design Guide 4.8, SON-86.005.00<1.0

    This chart was copied from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module#Formats


     

    This is info that I have found using Google.

     

    Message was edited by: b j t

  • 10. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    CSchnuffi5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've wrote that i sand the SIM.

    I've cut and sand the SIM to the Nano-Spec

     

    So the Card has the Nano-Spec

     

    Only i don't have a small 1mm plastic stripe arround the contact surface.

  • 11. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    b j t Level 4 Level 4 (3,670 points)

    I have a feeling that when you get your iPhone 5 and "try" to put the "butchered" chip in your phone,

    you will be coming back here saying that it is jammed / stuck and you have damaged the phone and need help, and will the warranty cover this ?

     

    I'll save you the hassle. No, the warranty on Apple products does not cover stupidity.

  • 12. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    CSchnuffi5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Why?

     

    The SIM has the Nano-Specs

     

    Only the chip is a little bit bigger and has no plastic stripe.

     

    So it is not possible to damage the phone with the SIM.

    When the SIM has short circuits the phone says "no sim".

  • 13. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    b j t Level 4 Level 4 (3,670 points)

    Do what you want to do.

    Everything I have read about the iPhone 5 says that it will only work using a proper nano SIM, not a "butchered" Micro SIM.

     

    If, after the iPhone 5 is released, a "butchered" SIM does work in the iPhone 5, I will gladly ask the host / moderator to remove my answer.

  • 14. Re: iPhone 5 Sim Tray Material?
    Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,850 points)

    The SIM has the Nano-Specs

     

    Only the chip is a little bit bigger and has no plastic stripe.

     

    You are contradicting yourself. If the chip is bigger and has no plastic surround, then it has not got the same specs as a NanoSIM has it?

     

    You may have butchered it to the same physical size, but that does not mean it will work.

     

    Guess you'll find out when your iPhone 5 arrives.

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