Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 12:22 AM (in response to Jumblemo)
You make very valid points but at least Apple should have developed the maps software further before deploying permanantly on millions of iOS devices. Why release something that is not even half baked. Perhaps making it Beta therefore allowing the turn by turn feature and at the same time keeping the Google maps app on iOS.
Will resort to Google maps on safari in for now
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 12:29 AM (in response to Shilts9)
Totally agree! in my case, i can't even use 3D view street turn by turn navigation, although apple says my country supports it. i guess Apple need times to fix all of the problems we have.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 1:05 AM (in response to Shilts9)
My devices are all Apple - MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone. I did not think this day would come, when 2-3 times a day, I am looking for directions or opening one of the apps I use most (maps), I curse my phone for not working! It is not working anywherenin Asia. The data is simply missing.
iPhone was important and central to me - now, I wish I had something else at least twice a day, when my phone, instead of helping me, wastes my time, my money and irritates me with its stupid Map results.
Apple must immediately get the old app back or pay Google or anybody else wherever it costs to get their Maps data to the same level as Google's. Crappy maps = crappy smart phone.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 1:38 AM (in response to Shilts9)
It's not just the actual maps App unfortunately. Many third party Apps rely on Google Maps which is now denied to them. These Apps are now rendered pretty much unusable in my local area due to the very poor Apple Maps data. I hope the App developers will find some way around this. Yes, you can use Google Maps via Safari, but I want the functionality in Apps that I paid for in good faith to be returned. Come on Apple, do the decent thing and admit that Apple Maps is not up to the job for the vast majority of users. I await IOS 6.1 release that offers the choice of Apple or Google Maps. Fat chance I know but you can always live in hope.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 1:51 AM (in response to Paul Herceg)
Paul Herceg wrote:
You gave permission by downloading and installing iOS 6, plain and simple.
They should of been clear it was a DOWNGRADE. If they're going to update and upgrade people are going to expect bare-minimum the same features they were using two days ago. It has absolutely no transit data, no one ever told me about this... if they did I wouldn't of bothered with the iOS update at all!
This will makes me weary about future iOS updates for sure... assuming I still carry an Apple device in my pocket by the time iOS7 rolls around.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 2:36 AM (in response to Paul Herceg)
I agree Paul, but I don't think anyone imagined Apple would risk its reputation by releasing something of such poor quality or that removes fundamental features that people use every day!! We were mugged and should have been more careful. I think this has undermined Apple's reputation. It is clearly not customer focussed any more. I will be selling my shares too.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:05 AM (in response to MarieJ88)
Why do Apple think they can steal my software? I am heavily dependent on Google maps and this replacement is useless. Worse than useless, downright misleading. I could go on - at great length. Just try it yourself. It is beyond a joke. The Google Maps app was my property. I bought it along with the phone. If Apple haven't heard about the low-cot Fast Track procedure in the English County Courts, they are about to find out. This is scary stuff - a big corporation arrogantly entering my phone and removing my property. Kafka, Orwell, Huxley all saw this coming.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:09 AM (in response to gkinchina)
I'm going to have to get a new device which will support Google maps. Any recommendations? Let me know if anybody wants to buy a white iPhone 4s. UK model, good condition, unlocked, original box, receipt.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:16 AM (in response to Shilts9)
iPhone, iCloud, iPad, iOS6, and now with maps apple has a new i. iAmateurhour. Glad I haven't updated my phone. If apple thinks replacing a polished professional map app with something so bad that it can't even be considered a beta is acceptable they got another thing coming. This new map app must have been designed by RIM. And what is worse is that apple says as more people use it, it will get better. Translation, they want us to fix their **** up. I'm not here to be apple's guinea pig, I need a map app that works. So until I hear otherwise, I am not updating my phone. And perhaps an iPhone 6 is not in my future.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:30 AM (in response to chrisallsop)
....The Google Maps app was my property. I bought it along with the phone. ..
What you purchased with your iPhone is a piece of hardware
and a "license" for the operating system and apps contained
on it. The operating system and apps are not "your property",
you are licensed to use it. This is true of any operating system
or software on any platform.
In turn, Google Maps was "licensed" to Apple as crippleware
compared to their own app with extreme limitations as to what
they were allowed to do with it.
BTW, all the features of the new Maps have been published
for a very long time. I simple glance through the info would
have told you that there was no Street View. So, you could have
simply chosen not to update.
Any way, both versions of Maps were lame, just the new one
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:36 AM (in response to Shilts9)
First, Apple sure as **** IS monitoring this thread. Don't kid yourself. The fact that they've let it go on so long as basically a complaint/rant thread proves it
Second. Steve Jobs held a press conference to address the antennae problems in the iPhone 4. And they gave out free bumper cases to people who complained.
Expect Tim Cook within the next couple of weeks to do the same thing.
What may be hanging things up is that he's probably working with his software people on a maps upgrade so he's got something to offer.
Their roll out strategy was obviously flawed. It should have been released as a beta where you can switch back and firth between which map app is the default system app. Then encourage people to go out and test the Apple version and correct errors, etc.
Most people would've been fine with that and it would have alleviated the serious problems apple is facing.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:40 AM (in response to woodmeister50)
So, Apple couldn't have purchased a license to Google's map data set and built its own turn by turn directions system interface fir it?
The killer feature of any map is accuracy. Everything else is secondary.
Who was clamor ing for native turn by turn directions from Apple maps? You can download multiple apps that do that already.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:50 AM (in response to philipfromeast lansing)
Yes, that's correct. Google were denying Apple a licence that would allow their data to be turned into a Satnav in effect. And various other rights. And Apple see the smartphone and the satnav as becoming one device. You can use other apps for that, but then they dont integrate into Siri and other functions. So having been denied by Google they had to licence an alternative data set. And for part of this they have picked TomTom. However it seems the current data sets used are not up to the job.
But if you say you are happy to use another app for this then why not extend that concept to mapping and use google maps.