Currently Being ModeratedMay 7, 2013 6:52 AM (in response to soltysekj)
I was disappointed to find that Calendar and Reminders are two separate apps in Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8.3). But I am more disappointed that I didn't think to check for discussions about this issue before upgrading. I didn't think to check on iCal in Mountain Lion because iCal was working so well. If it ain't broke why change it?
I have a little network of three 2011 model iMacs that had been running Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6.8) with Snow Leopard Server on a Mac mini. We don't share files as much as diary entries and our to-do lists. We are very happy with how OS X 10.6 handles this.
There are a couple of pieces of software that I would like to use that only run on Lion or Mountain Lion so I thought I'd upgrade one of the iMacs to Mountain Lion. After the upgrade Calendar appears to have picked up the iCal data on the iMac and our shared iCal data on the server but not the to-do list items. It appears from the discussions that no provision has been made to import the data into Reminders.
Strangely, some completed to-do items appeared in Reminders though. I'm not sure if that is a comfort to you if the uncompleted items do not come across.
After my first shutdown and next startup of the iMac I also encountered the frozen dialogue box "Upgrading calendars …" which some of the discussions mentioned. Calendar quit OK and I re-opened it without the dialogue box appearing again. Calendar is a big window too that doesn't seem to be able to be reduced down much.
Some years ago I used an application called Now Up-to-Date on various Macs running OS 8. It combined a calendar and to-do list that could be shared on a network but the network features didn't work with OS X in Classic mode. It wasn't until later versions of OS X that iCal incorporated the combined features.
This is a bit of a long story but for the first time using Macs I think I will uninstall an upgrade. My little network was working fine. I'm also not keen to upgrade the server to Mountain Lion and risk messing up features that have been working well.
Currently Being ModeratedMay 7, 2013 7:05 AM (in response to soltysekj)
While browsing these discussions I noticed a thread that might be of interest to you:-
Is anyone besides me still running Snow Leopard and extremely hesitant about upgrading to Mountain Lion?
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Re: Is anyone besides me still running Snow Leopard and extremely hesitant about upgrading to Mountain Lion?
Jan 18, 2013 1:06 PM (in response to Summa03)
What I did on our two computers was partition the hard drive so that both Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion can be used on the computers. This allowed me to be able to retain/use older applications and games on the Snow Leopard partition. This will allow you to do a clean install of Mountain Lion on the newly created partition. The Mountain Lion installer has a button that allows you to select another drive so you don't install it over Snow Leopard. I cleverly name one partition Snow Leopard and the other one Mountain Lion so I wouldn't confuse the two (I never claimed to be smart).
To partition, you need to have sufficient free hard drive space (I suggest 50 GB minimum). Boot off the Snow Leopard DVD or the disks that came with the computer and use Disk Utility to partition your hard drive into two partitions. If you plan to make Mountain Lion your primary OS, then you can reduce the size of the Snow Leopard partition so most of the free hard drive space is available for Mountain Lion.
After getting all that sorted out, I found that while booted in Mountain Lion I could access the Snow Leopard partition. That allowed me to drag file and applications from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. Applications that won't work with Mountain Lion will be grayed out with a slash through them.
Not all Mountain Lion features may be available. The Apple support article below covers that:
Mountain Lion doesn't act like Snow Leopard. For example, scrolling is reversed, but if you spend enough time in System Preferences, you can get the OS to be mostly like Snow Leopard.
Using some workarounds, I can access Mail, Calendar (read only), and Address Book/Contacts on the Snow Leopard partition using iCloud, which I use every night.
Currently Being ModeratedMay 9, 2013 7:15 PM (in response to Dried Apple)
I think my previous reply either vanished into the ether or got sent inadvertently before I was finished.
I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to send me yor thoughts.
In fact I upgraded to Mountain Lion months ago, & did in fact lose most of my thousands of historical completed ToDos, & had to manually enter all my upcoming ToDos into Reminders.
Isn't Reminders absolutely lame?
And I was about to add that after I did the Mountain Lion upgrade I guess I was feeling bullish & decided to switch to iCloud (from iTunes syncing of iCal with my iPhone) & - after iCloud chugged long for 3-4 days - in the end I lost 7-8 years of iCal history ...since unfortunately when one's data is sent to iCloud it is automatically deleted from the Mac, & is not recoverable ...& iCloud somehow never absorbed it.
Sigh... Sometimes some upgrades are just change for change's sake, or for some benefit that Apple perceives for itself, not the user.
Thanks again for your tips.
Currently Being ModeratedMay 10, 2013 12:24 AM (in response to soltysekj)
Thanks for you comments. You have helped me too.
One of the reasons I was going to upgrade to Mountain Lion was to try iCloud. Your comments have made me think again about trusting iCloud too much.
I might just experiment with iCloud a little. I have also hear good reports about Dropbox.
Currently Being ModeratedMay 15, 2013 12:50 PM (in response to Dried Apple)
FYI other than the initial Calendar losses, iCloud has been working fine ...& I have come to appreciate being able to enter or edit entries on my iPhone or Mac & having them show up soon on the other device.
I also like Dropbox, although I am not a heavy user. But it works well for the few things I do with it.
And it's not a substitite for iCloud.