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Purple Haze on iPhone 5 Photos

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  • Canadianpj Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 5:21 PM (in response to conorfromvictoria)

    Great. You couldn't get it to work so we're all fools right? Hilarious. Get over yourself.

  • NightNinjaPDX Level 2 Level 2 (255 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to Canadianpj)

    It would appear this is a problem with the new crystal Apple used in the lens of the new iSight camera in the iPhone 5.  With this being the case, how does Apple intend to fix this issue?  Oh you don't have Apple Care on your new iPhone 5, tough luck?

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,410 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 5:38 PM (in response to NightNinjaPDX)

    NightNinjaPDX wrote:

     

    It would appear this is a problem with the new crystal Apple used in the lens of the new iSight camera in the iPhone 5.

    Where do you hear there this?

     

    Oh you don't have Apple Care on your new iPhone 5, tough luck?

    Yes, everyone has AppleCare for a year on their new iPhone 5.

  • conorfromvictoria Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:25 PM (in response to Chris CA)

    Do a quick search regarding Synthetic Sapphire glass and iPhone 5, and you'll see that several forums clearly show the effects of using this material as it's complete transparent to IR and UV.... The camera is already sensitive to IR but the glass exacerbates the issue.

     

    A little shot across the bow, Canadianpj,

     

    Thanks for your constructive comments.

     

     

    ---- Yes, I am trying to get the famous purple/pink haze with my iPhone4S and I can't get ANY of my pictures to come out anywhere near what we are seeing in the iPhone 5.

    The only close pics I could get was from an IR remote. It shows a pinkish light. Diode is ~790nm.

     

     

      Here is a picture I took about a week ago, using my iPhone camera. Note the sun is in the left corner.

    I should be seeing the famed pink discolouration.

    I'm not seeing anything like this on the iPhone 4S.

     

    Shot was taken at Cheongyecheon (across from Bennigan's) in Seoul, S.Korea

    IMG_0942.JPG

  • Canadianpj Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:32 PM (in response to NightNinjaPDX)

    Check this out:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4436?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

     

    If that is going to stay the answer then there is no fix coming for this. The only way something is going to go get done is if we do not let up. Keep calling Apple Support, keep going to the stores.

  • William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,405 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:38 PM (in response to Canadianpj)

    If it's caused by the lens material, Apple isn't going to change it until they someday release the next iPhone.

  • AAOO Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:40 PM (in response to Canadianpj)

    That is total BS. Lens flare is a given but the purple color of the lens flare is not. Apple is trying to sweep this under the rug.

  • conorfromvictoria Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:57 PM (in response to AAOO)

    There is a simple solution to the problem. Use a filter. It would be a cheap and easy fix.

    Filters that block NIR wavelengths are less than $3.

     

    I tried getting pink to show up on the rear iPhone 4S camera using an IR source. Doesn't allow IR at all. In fact the filtering is pretty decent.

    However on the front camera, I do get pink in bright sunlight and it happens to be IR sensitive to a remote.

    remote typically use 790nm.

     

    What does this tell me about out colouration in the iPhone 5?

     

    I believe the cameras used on the iPhone5 are identical to the 4S. anyone else confirm this?

     

     

    Anyone test a TV remote control  with the iPhone 5 yet. Notice any flashing ?

    I dare anyone to try it and see what happens.

  • NightNinjaPDX Level 2 Level 2 (255 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:50 PM (in response to conorfromvictoria)

    I am thinking of returning this iPhone to Apple and going with the Samsung Galaxy S III.  As you said, Apple is trying to sweep this under the rug, and blame it on the customers which is ridiculous. 

  • Tgara Level 4 Level 4 (3,540 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 7:55 PM (in response to AAOO)

    Come on, this s simple physics.  The purple color is due to the reflected light inside the lens bouncing off the coatings.  I get the same with my very expensive Canon dSLR.  Just change your shooting angle and the issue can be easily avoided. 

     

    Like Scotty said to Captain Kirk, "I canna change the laws of physics".  :)

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,410 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 8:00 PM (in response to AAOO)

    AAOO wrote:

     

    Apple is trying to sweep this under the rug.

    Where are these comments from Apple about it?

  • jeffkc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 8:05 PM (in response to AeRobins)

    I wonder how the iPod touch camera fairs in the purple haze test.

  • AAOO Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 8:05 PM (in response to Chris CA)

    Chris CA wrote:

     

    AAOO wrote:

     

    Apple is trying to sweep this under the rug.

    Where are these comments from Apple about it?

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4436?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

  • conorfromvictoria Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 8:18 PM (in response to Tgara)

    You obviously don't get a massive pink flare like the pictures were seeing unless you've purposely taken out the IR filter to do NIR photography. Canon DSLRs use multiple AR coated optics and have completely different image sensors.

    Infact CMOS. You're comparing Apples to Oranges. 

    The fact you get a flare, isn't the point. You don't get pink/purplish fogging away from a high intensity lightsource on a Canon DSLR. 

    iPhone cameras are CCD sensors.. Just as any other phone on the market has. CCDs are particulary prone to showing IR, which is why they are used in night security cameras with NIR arrays.

     

     

    I am a professional photographer, myself, with a background in digital imaging.

    I know IR when I see it.

     

    Thanks.

     

    For anyone with a iPhone5  do the test below.

    If you see the flashing of a TV remote on the rear (8MP) , post your pics.

     

     

    http://www.outdooreyes.com/photo64.php3

     

    Quote:

     

    *CAMERA IR TEST

     

    Test your camera's IR sensitivity (credit for this goes to the Digital Infrared Basics article):

    1. Point a TV, camera or other IR remote into the lens of your camera.

    2. Press any button on the remote.

    3. Look for the IR beam in the camera's TTL LCD or EVF (electronic viewfinder).

    4. If the remote's beam looks bright, you should be able to get decent IR images—at least with the affordable dark red Hoya R72 filter or Wratten 89b equivalent.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,410 points)
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    Oct 9, 2012 8:07 PM (in response to NightNinjaPDX)

    NightNinjaPDX wrote:

     

    I am thinking of returning this iPhone to Apple and going with the Samsung Galaxy S III.

    That is really what you should do. I feel you would be far more satisfied wiht this decision.

     

    How exactly is Apple "sweeping it under the rug"?

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