Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 11:10 AM (in response to hotwheels 22)
How handy are you?
The cheap one with a 6-core processor upgrade is hard to do, but gives you a screamer if successful.Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), & Server, PPC, & AppleTalk Printers
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 11:12 AM (in response to The hatter)
i am not exceptionally knowledgeable about technical issues and don't understand this answer.
can you flesh it out a little in a way that a relatively non-technical person such as myself can understand?
i don't even get whether you like one of these machines, understand what EFI32, 8800 or what "flashed" is.
also, 5770 and GTX 570 refer to video cards and if so what are you saying about them exactly??
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 11:16 AM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
thanks. you are awesome.
i am pretty technically handy and i am sure i could handle anything given good enough instructions.
also, any advice on getting a good deal with a screaming machine (without too much additional cost) would be both nice and a nice way to resolve this.
i hadn't intended on spending the money on this but i need to get it out of the way to finish my portage to mac.
can you flesh out what you are explaining to me on this issue? 6 core processor upgrade involves purchasing what? also, if there was something exceptionally tricky i have a computer guy that handles some stuff for me (you are not talking like something along the lines of soldering i suppose...).
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 11:28 AM (in response to hotwheels 22)
The hatter has posted the details of the processor to buy on your "selling" thread. You also will need some special tools and some Thermal paste. There are several good guides online specific to this upgrade.Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), & Server, PPC, & AppleTalk Printers
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 12:00 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)
There are already FAQs and HOW TO on MacRumors (and easy to find at a glance, too, the question / topic commes up daily ) and your name isn't new here.
Watch the great well done youtube that will walk you through how it is done.
Hard to do? swapping out processor is considered easy compared to other Mac Pro models, harder when compared to say RAM or disk drive yes.
you would like 2010 for Windows with GTX 570 or 670:
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 12:32 PM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
thank you. i am printing out hatter's links (thank you!) and will study them over the next couple of days.
just because a lot of this can get very technical for me and because it is easy for me to get lost in a lot of it.
can i please ask you if you are recommending the $1800 nehalem as a particularly good deal and then you are saying that if i want a really screaming machine i can spend another $600 and take the effort to install something that will then make this machine a screaming machine at an extremely good price?
i mean, i am going to spend a couple of dollars on additional RAM and i think i am seeing some recommendations on new video cards i could buy but in terms of making an immediate decision is the $1800 nehalem a great deal with the option of adding another $600 to this in the event that i really need to get it to perform exceptionally well?
also, i assume this level of work on it will void the warranty...? i mean, i am not so sure i need to do this sort of customization at least within the 3 year applecare...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 12:35 PM (in response to The hatter)
i will study these links and a big THANK YOU for posting them. very helpful.
can i just please ask you if we are talking about potentially swapping out the processor on the NEW machine though? i mean, from the sounds of it this machine will cost me $1800 plus $600 and some work with customizing it but also the possibility of voiding the warranty perhaps?
and - i mean is it possible to swap out the processor on the 1,1 Mac Pro if I wanted to just keep working with it and spend my money on a new Laptop so as to get my moms a mac by giving her my old one?
or - well i guess the 1,1 is not a machine i should be thinking about customizing even though it is out of warranty?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 12:40 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)
If you are going to buy it and use it as is, the faster clock speed 4-core would be better. But if you are going to modify it, buy the cheapest one, since you are going to replace the relatively slow processor anyway.
You would still be doing OK (not stellar) if you bought the slowest one, and never got around to the upgrade. It has twice the processing power of the Mac Pro you have now.Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), & Server, PPC, & AppleTalk Printers
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 12:52 PM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
hi grant. thanks.
is the url posted at $1800 a particularly good deal? i mean if i can buy 10 GB of RAM for $150 and be up and running at twice the processing power (with the new OS) and sell the existing machine for $600 or so it may not be a bad solution for me at the moment.
that said for another $300 i guess i get a much better machine with the second link?
also, does this customization we are talking about void my warranty? i am relying on my 3 year applecare pretty heavily, i find and i am not sure i am ready on this go round to become a modder...
that said, there is nothing keeping me from modding the 1,1 but i guess this is a silly idea for practical reasons i guess...?
Currently Being ModeratedOct 11, 2012 1:07 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)
A new 3.2GHz 4-core runs $2500? nice.
$300 DDR3 in 2010 buys probably 32GB. I would get 3x8GB for graphics at minimum.
Ever look at the geekbench scores?
Yes there is help on how to turn your 1,1 into 8-core $200 2xX5355s but I don't see that as economical.
the cpu swap is a warranty voiding upgrade. Some keep the old one around, some sell the 2.8 4-core $200.
The memory bandwidth, the graphic subsystem, what would be nice are two SATA3 ports.
And about HT: