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  • 105. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    Jennifer Carr Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    (note I found this thread while doing some due diligence before signing up to Match)

     

    Thank you all for discussing this issue from about as many angles as seems possible.  We just bought a pair of iPhone 4s phones (still on iOS5) and we also have a New iPad.  iTunes Match was one of the selling points for getting iPhones, but now I'm feeling a bit jipped.  The scenario of being able to download TO the phone on-the-fly and then playing songs while offline (wireless or wi-fi) was a big selling point.  I teach yoga and often want access to different playlist but I have too many songs to carry around on a 16g drive.  I also can't afford unlimited data streaming and don't always have access to wi-fi.  Downloading a playlist as needed was going to make my life much easier.

     

    Unfortunately, I already updated our iPad to iOS6.  Does this problem with iTunes Match affect TV shows purchased through Apple TV/iTunes as well?  We bought the iPad b/c we fly long distances as a family (12+ hours) and wanted to load up the iPad with my 3yo's favorite shows.  Does Match even have anything to do with the TV shows, and are they crippled when you go to airplane mode as well?

     

    Bummer!  It looks like Match is off the table. 

  • 106. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    Joel S Level 2 Level 2 (185 points)

    I'm going to shove two separate posts into one here:

     

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    #1

     

    I agree that not being able to easily tap a song to download in iOS6 is unfortunate, but it's really not that time consuming to quickly create a playlist of those songs. Once in the playlist, it's a single click to download them all. Again, I prefer the way it was in iOS5, but this particular change at least has a workaround that isn't too involved, and doesn't require leaving the app

     

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    #2

     

    Regarding the issue of not knowing what's on your phone. An alternative workaround to disabling iTunes Match, is to use a different app. I stumbled across this when using a music app call 'Music+' (I have no affiliation with the app - I bought it for it's song queueing feature). The app has an option to only show music that's on the phone. Since I already owned the app, this has been a better solution for me than messing with iTM settings to get that information. Obviously if you don't already own an app that has this feature, spending money to buy one is not ideal. But I just wanted to share this discovery.

  • 107. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    CW5150 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Spreadly

     

    I am also not sure how you are getting it to work this way with iOS 6.  It used to work this way for me in iOS 5, but not 6.  I have an Iphone 5 now so I don't believe reverting back to iOS 5 is an option.  I have an Alpine stereo with Ipod USB connectivity, but for some reason it will only play music that is on my phone, not from Match.

     

    Here is what I did:

    -Toggled ITunes Match off

    -Connected to Itunes on my computer

    -Went to the music tab under my device and selected songs to sync

    -Unplugged my phone and confirmed all of the songs/playlists I downloaded were there

    -Toggled ITunes Match on...get the message that it will replace my library, clicked "enable"

    -When I go to the music folder the Icloud icon appears.  When it goes away my entire library is there.

    -Go back to settings and toggle ITunes Match off

     

    Now when I go back to my music nothing is there.  Under songs it says "no songs".  Nothing under artists, playlists, etc.  This really blows because I liked being able to toggle it on and off.  The option I am trying now is to leave Match on and download a couple of playlists I listen to regularly.  I'll see how that works.

  • 108. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    CW5150 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK so an update on this...maybe I am doing something wrong.

     

    So I downloaded two playlists directly from Match onto my device (clicked the cloud icon at the bottom of each playlist and let it download).  Went back to settings and turned Match off...again no music.  Nothing at all in any folder.

     

    So I download again.  This time I left Match turned on but turned switched to airplane mode.  Again no music.  ***?!  That's a great service!  Glad I figured this out before my next trip.  That would have sucked.  So I guess my only alternative is to turn off Match, not renew my subscription and go back to downloading everything directly to my device.  How do you take a great product and ruin it like that?  I just converted to Apple a couple of years ago because I liked how "everything just worked".  My experience with the Iphone 5 and iOS6 has been the opposite...not sure what is happening with Apple.

  • 109. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    Spreadly Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @CW5150

     

     

    CW5150 wrote:

     

    @Spreadly

     

    I am also not sure how you are getting it to work this way with iOS 6.  It used to work this way for me in iOS 5, but not 6.  I have an Iphone 5 now so I don't believe reverting back to iOS 5 is an option.  I have an Alpine stereo with Ipod USB connectivity, but for some reason it will only play music that is on my phone, not from Match.

     

    Here is what I did:

    -Toggled ITunes Match off

    -Connected to Itunes on my computer

    -Went to the music tab under my device and selected songs to sync

    -Unplugged my phone and confirmed all of the songs/playlists I downloaded were there

    -Toggled ITunes Match on...get the message that it will replace my library, clicked "enable"

    -When I go to the music folder the Icloud icon appears.  When it goes away my entire library is there.

    -Go back to settings and toggle ITunes Match off

     

    Now when I go back to my music nothing is there.  Under songs it says "no songs".  Nothing under artists, playlists, etc.  This really blows because I liked being able to toggle it on and off.  The option I am trying now is to leave Match on and download a couple of playlists I listen to regularly.  I'll see how that works.

     

    Hi. When I follow those steps, the music does stay on my phone when I toggle ITM off i'm afraid. I've just done it a few times to see if theres a delay showing music but it happened instantly.

     

    The only songs that are getting deleted from the device when I turn ITM off are ones I 'streamed' but not ones I 'downloaded'  to the phone either by syncing or pressing the cloud icon.. they are definately on the device whether ITM is on or off.

     

    I suppose a reset might work? but always a pain.

     

    I'll let you know if I think of anything.

     

    Cheers

     

    I'm racking my brains to think if there's something we're doing differently but I cant see it.

  • 110. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    Spreadly Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @ violet_13

     

    Hi.

     

    A workaround to load up individual songs on the fly is to use 'add playlist' and select individual songs. (point made by Joel S above)

     

    Not ideal but kind of works?

  • 111. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    CW5150 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Cool man...I appreciate the quick reply.  Not sure what I am doing wrong either.  For now I have turned it off and downloaded everything (glad I got the 64mb version).  I'll play around with it later and let you know if I figure anything out.

  • 112. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    Rockoson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Did the same. It's a good workaround but not more..

    But what is most fckd up to me is that I can't delet a single song on the fly.

    If I just want to get rid of one song on an album 'cause you listend to it for the hundreds time..

    I realy don't use the "shuffle all music" that much anymore because of this!

     

    There has to be an update to bring manual control back!

  • 113. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    admrh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is a seriously bad change especially with no communication to users in advance.  It also seems as if iOS 6 by default uses iTunes Match to STREAM music, not to Sync music.  I only found this out when, during a 12 hour flight, I went to my iPhone and found all the music gone.  All the content had been removed.  It only reappeared when I was reconnected to a wifi network.  I worked out how to re-download my content but this took a long time and at one point got "stuck" so I had to do a full restore of the iPhone.

     

    3 new points to add to this discussion:

     

    I'm wary of downloading all my content.  With the old ITM I thought it synchronised what it could do the phone based on some smart algorithm, but that the iPhone would delete tracks rarely played if it needed space.  Does the new iOS also do this? 

     

    When I click the cloud icon to download a smart playlist, is this "one off", or will it always download whatever content is in the smart playlist? e.g. will it automatically download tracks in my "recently ripped" playlist?  If not, managing the content on my phone, without an unlimited data tarrif or wifi availability on the hoof, I am better off unsubcribing from ITM and just Synching with my Macbook Air again!

     

    Finally, when I contacted Apple support re all of this, they did check my library and confirmed it would all be available to download again... with the exception of ... a list of about 500 tracks (which are present on my MBA but of course not on my iPhone any more).  Now, correct me if I am wrong, but since I have ITM activated on my MBA, doesn't this mean any content not available on iTunes would be UPLOADED from my MBA and thus be available for ever for downloading to other devices on the same ITM account?

  • 114. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    Spreadly Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @admrh

     

    Hi.

     

    IOS6 just adds streaming to the already present ability to download.

     

    By clicking the cloud icon, it downloads to your device. By clicking the song itself, it streams to your device.

     

    The issue some have is that you cannot download individual songs (or delete them). However you can stream individual songs...

     

    If downloaded (cloud icon) it remains on the device indefinately, if streamed it is placed in a temporary cache, which will remain there for a while until  it gets replaced down the line with a more recent 'streamed' song.

     

    If your content reappeared when you conected to a wi-fi network it means that it is showing your icloud content, not music already downloaded to your device.

     

    The problem with not being able to delete individual songs on the fly is there, many don't like it.

     

    As i've said before the way it does work for me is that if you stream music (by clicking the song, rather than the cloud icon) you can delete all of your streamed songs by toggling ITM on/off.)

     

    Regarding ITM on your MBA... Yes, it should upload all your content to the cloud, it may take a few 'update ITM''s though.

     

    Cheers

  • 115. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    merman93 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    For me, the way I use my device to play music in my car, this works great with iphone 5 over LTE. I guess I just don't utilize it as most of the others who are posting in these threads. I will swipe and delete all music data in the morning, or the evening after, and any song or playlist I request from SIRI via Bluetooth is played instantly, absolutely as quick as when I had songs stored in IOS 5. As I posted elsewhere, I know this doesn't work as well as my friends iphone 5 on Sprint. His data stream is unreliable and songs skip, stutter , and often SIRI can't find playlists.

     

    For my needs, iTunes Match is finally stable and has become an integrated part of my Acura's music system, using a Belkin Bluetooth interface, I rarely remove my iphone from my pocket, and have a vast selection of music to listen too.

  • 116. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    matutemats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I couldn't agree more.

     

    What we should all here do is to go to this website http://www.apple.com/feedback/ and leave the feedback as an Enhancment Request I suppose.

     

    Let's make sure Apple makes worth the money we've invested in their products.

  • 117. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    violet_13 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sure you don't even think about it when you are connected to network and/or have an unlimited data plan but unplugged or trying to stay within plan limits and it's a disaster.

     

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  • 118. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    gmansc1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A Total Failure of iTunes Match on my iPhone -- Giving Up....

     

    Well, yesterday was the last straw for my using ITM on my phone.  I had to get a replacement phone due to unrelated issues.  Since we cannot batch copy music from a computer before turning on ITM, all songs must be downloaded from the IT store.  I set up a playlist with about 1000 songs that I hoped would download easily overnight (20 Mb/s modem -- quite fast).  I started the download but after quickly downloading about 100 songs, the download rate slowed to a crawl.  Five to ten minutes per song.  By the morning, less than 1/4 of the library was downloaded.  Even worse, I couldn't stop the download activity.  Of course, this made the phone almost unusable, with constant background activity.  A call to Apple and transfers to their senior engineers failed to find any resolution.  I logged out of the IT store and did a hard restart and, amazing as it may seem, the downloads continued, with tons of error messages because I had logged out.  Seems that I had a runaway process that survived a hard restart.  My phone had become a zombie.  I ended up doing a full restore as new.  This time I left ITM off and just copied my music from my computer library.  Easy and reliable.  Got to love having the latest phone and system (iphone 5 with iOS 6) and listening to music 2005 ipod style.  Thanks apple.  I'll wait until they make this a functional service before trying again on my phone.

  • 119. Re: iTunes Match crippled in iOS 6
    cazcaz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the feedback link, I've been and left them some strong comments on just how poor I think their design and implementation of ios6 has been in regards to itunes match.  Where was the testing? Where are the fixes? And why do Apple keep everything so secret? Some advance warning of the changes (if they worked) would have been nice. I think i'll bin the iphone and go back to my sony mp3 player.

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