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HT4992 Why is it Siri is not available on the iPhone 4?

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Oct 12, 2012 6:40 AM

I had Siri working on my iPhone 3G before Apple bought the company that made the app. Now everyone is saying the iPhone 4 and below do not have the power to run Siri. I do not believe it to be true. Please help me understand why Apple took Siri away from me?

iPhone 4, iOS 6
  • ckuan Level 6 Level 6 (19,800 points)

    iPhone never had Siri. As you know Apple bought the company and the Siri is now available only in iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad 3rd generations and 5th generation iPod touch. Siri before is not the same as Siri now because Apple is using a chip which is not available prior iPhone 4S and also Siri is using Apple servers.

  • ckuan Level 6 Level 6 (19,800 points)

    Minister1906 wrote:


    Your statement is not entirely true. Siri started out as an app on from the App Store. I still have it in my iTunes app section. When Apple purchased the rights from the developers, the servers that ran the "app version" stopped working. Now the same program I had 2 1/2 years ago on my iphone 3g will not run and I'm being told the only way to get it now is to upgrade to at least the 4s.

    Now, Siri is using Apple servers not from the previous developer's server. The previous server was shut down so that's why the Siri app you have do not work. It is trying to connect to a server that do not exists anymore.


    I'm not wealthy and cannot afford to drop off $200.00 every year just to gain a few new features. I upgraded from the 3G to the 4 only to see the 4s come out 2weeks later. I was happy with my iPhone 3G even though the 3GS came out a month later.  But I am starting to loose my loyalty to Apple when they are constantly dangling new features on their newer devices in front on me knowing that these features could run on their older devices, but Apple leaves them off just to get me to upgrade.

    It is known that every year Apple will bring a new iPhone to the market. So if you buy an iPhone 2 weeks earlier instead of waiting for the new iPhone, that can happen.

    No, not all new feature can runs on old hardware. This is called progress. But wait, your iPhone is still running fine as you bought it. You are not forced to upgrade. But if the new feature is important to you then pay for it.

    Next year, there will be another new iPhone with new features that you might want/like and will not run on iPhone you bought.  And it happens the year after ....

  • chrisfromgastonia Level 5 Level 5 (4,185 points)

    I understand your frustration, but that holds true for the vast majority of phone manufacturers, not just apple. As technology evolves, so does the features on new phones.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,450 points)

    Minister1906 wrote:



    everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions - and I respect yours - however, a few more rounds of this from Apple and I am finding a new company to invest in.

    A phone is a tool, not an investment. There is almost zero probabiity that it will appreciate in value. And, yes, you should buy the tool that best meets your needs. If you want to invest in something, buy stock or real estate.

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,840 points)

    "Once the iPhone4s was released, Apple recieved a multitude of complaints that althought both phones (iPhone 4 and iPhone4s) where running the same software package (iOS5.0), there where programs (such as Siri) that Apple would not allow to run on both phones. The Board of Executives took a vote and where going to provide a link on the Apple website to allow users of the iPhone4 to download several programs shipped with the iphone 4s but not available to the iphone 4. The Executive Board voted "yes" until the VP of Marketing and the Head of Research showed the Member of the Board how much profit Apple would loose on the iPhone 4s already in production and exported internationally. So the Board voted again and overturned it's own vote just to ensure the iPhone 4s would reach it's market potenial - and it did. The iPhone 4s outsold all of it's predecessors by a huge volume."


    None of this story is true. It is a nice story you've made up but it has nothing to do with reality.

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,840 points)

    This article proves nothing at all about your made up story. You are very creative though, making up a story and then scouring the internet to find something to back it up. But I see nothing about the "Executive Board" (there is no such thing at Apple), the "Head of Research (ditto, and why would that person be at a meeting discussing revenue), etc.


    And the article you present is from an unreliable source, quoting another unreliable source, from a blogger I've never heard of and it has an Editor's note doubting the full veracity of the article. I don't doubt that Apple tested the Siri code they purchased on the earlier iPhones when they bought it as the iPhone 4s was not yet available. I don't doubt they found the quality unacceptable for Apple standards, which is why they purchased the Audience voice recognition/noise suppression chipset for the iPhone 4s and the new iPad (for the iPhone 5 and 5th generation iPod Touch they used different hardware based noise suppression/voice recognition and dropped Audience. Hope you didn't invest in their stock).


    So let's see (and you don't have to be a rocket scientist for this) Apple bought Siri, rewrote the code and changed servers and added hardware to improve it (but it is still in beta). The devices with hardware noise suppression/voice recognition have it, those that don't, well don't have it. Same type of argument has taken place many times with Apple products, video on the iPhone 3G being one of them. Nothing new.


    As far as your cockeyed Ford/XMSirius radio analogy, if you have a lifetime subscription (with is content) even if Ford bought it they would have to honor your subscription and they would be crazy not to, it is a revenue stream. A more fitting analogy would be if XMSirius and Ford came out with a new hybrid radio that could handle all the channels of XM and Sirius and made a subscription available, at the same price, that included 50 additional channels and you could not get the new 50 channels.


    I'm not challenging how you feel, but I challenge you to buy any cell phone today and in two years (probably won't take that long) have the same features as a phone released 2 years later.


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