Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 10:23 AM (in response to Pete boston)
Pete - some additional things I've noticed with my VZW Galaxy S3 vs AT&T iphone 5 (I've since returned my VZW iPhone 5 since I decided to stick with AT&T) is how often it switches to 3G or even 1X when indoors. The AT&T iPhone 5 tends to hold on to LTE much, much better than VZW's phones/LTE. I have to say that after having tested these for several weeks, I truly believe AT&T has made some major improvements or learned lessons from their history with overcrowding in the past. I've also not dropped any calls with my AT&T iPhone 5...
This certainly doesn't explain the inconsistant VZW LTE network I've experienced but it's definitely interesting to see a quite apparent network enhancement from AT&T...
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 11:43 AM (in response to omsterathome)
I'm having the same issue on my iPhone 5. I thought maybe the carrier update from Verizon would help, but that doesn't appear to have been the problem. I have friends with Verizon 4G LTE devices and in the same area, they will maintain LTE signal, and my phone will go from 3G to 4G, 3G to 4G, and back and forth. Highly annoying! Most of the time, it will just stay at 3G (almost like that's where the phone is comfortable) and it has to work very hard to try and find an LTE signal (even though no other phone has this issue). To me, this is a firmware or hardware issue with Apple, not something they can update with a Software Update. I say shame on them for not testing the phone in more places, notably outside their labs and in the real world.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 1:04 PM (in response to Kevin222)
The same thing is happening to AT&T iPhone 5's. That's why I'm inclined to say this is an Apple issue. Unless both AT&T and Verizon are having problems with both of their LTE networks, which I'm not too sure about because just the other day, my friend with an Android phone had perfect LTE stability and my phone refused to connect.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 1:56 PM (in response to JP Glock)
Global Gas - Rt. 1 North
VZW iPhone 5 - Stuck on 3G (strong signal - 5 bars) -62dBm
Finally about 2-3 min. (not moving) regained LTE on its own 5 bars, strong signal -83dBm.
Costco - Rt.1 North (OUTSIDE)
VZW iPhone 5 -Stuck on 3G (-89dBm) / inside signal dead 1 3G bar at times, did not want to pass data reliably
AT&T Galaxy S III - 26.41Mbs/down 7.12Mbs/up - 3 bar -103dBm 37 asu (INSIDE as good as OUTSIDE)
Trader Joes - Rt. 114 (OUTSIDE)
VZW iPhone 5 4.58Mbs/down 0.22Mbs/up (-118dBm)
Inside signal was 3G
Only saving grace for VZW iPhone 5 here was that AT&T GS III had a weak signal as well, 1 bar HSPA/+ "4G" (no LTE) inside
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 2:56 PM (in response to Pete boston)
Good comparison of VZW vs. ATT and iPhone vs. GS III upload speeds at:
Unfortunately I don't think they did any lower signal strength testing, but still good data and very similiar to what I had seen.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 3:20 PM (in response to Pete boston)
Thanks for that. I think I'll have 2 weeks (14 days) to return the phone without an ETF, and if the Verizon LTE isn't performing for me, I may just return the phone and go with AT&T. I haven't been on AT&T for a few years. You seem to be happy with them the past few years, right? When I think of AT&T, I recall pretty good data performance and pretty lousy call performance...dropping calls on 128, Mass Pike, and other populated areas that I would expect great coverage!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 14, 2012 3:34 PM (in response to JP Glock)
Can't speak for AT&T w/ iPhone 5, may be horrible as well although I know people with iPhone 5's on ATT and they're not unhappy like I am (there are obviously some unhappy ATT customers in this post though), but AT&T w/ Galaxy S III has been pretty good up/down North Shore, 128, 93, 3, 495 and Boston area. Obviously your mileage may vary if you live in a spot without a tower nearby. I do find that in the middle of nowhere, VZW has better 3G coverage, including NH, VT, ME, etc. I spent a week in NH and VT a few months ago and VZW had pretty good 3G coverage while ATT was a paperweight for most of the trip.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2012 2:50 AM (in response to mrhercli)
I'm not experiencing any of this behavior with my AT&T iPhone 5 so it's certainly not affecting everyone the same way. As I've done my testing with two different types of VZW phones (iPhone 5 and GS3) which both bahaved nearly identically with signal strength, LTE loss and data speeds; I am definitely not convinced it's all apple. In fact, I think that can be ruled out based on Pete and other testers I've seen. That's not to say there is no blame on Apple, however, or that some iPhone 5's definitely have issues, but it's clearly not the main cause for many people.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2012 6:45 AM (in response to liam.robertson)
There is a report from a couple users in the VZW Community forum for iPhone 5 that disabling International CDMA under Settings->General->Cellular->Roaming improved their iPhone 5's ability to get back to LTE rapidly after locking 3G. I don't see this in my "fringe" VZW service area, but since the original poster and a follow-up user have both seen an improvement on getting back to LTE w/ this setting disabled, I am cross posting here so others can try.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 15, 2012 11:01 AM (in response to Pete boston)
Tried in NYC area for the past hour. Initially didnt see much of a difference.
Connection wouldnt switch in Bryant Park. Toggled airplane mode and noticed websites wouldnt load. Checked on Ookla. Less than 1mbps on 4 bars LTE. Toggles to 3G and connection was faster.
I honeslty dont know what to do anymore. Guess I am stuck with VZW for 2 years.
Anyone have any experience getting VZW to drop the ETF due to poor service?