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  • 4,935. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    srhwang Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Barry, doing a bit of research on those two calibration units, I'm reading that the Spyder 4 has some software and QC issues, where as the Eye1 pro has been getting only good reviews. Further, some professional in the field recommended the eye1 over the Spyder 4. It's your call though.

  • 4,936. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    srhwang Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sorry Danny, I'm just trying to offer genuinely helpful opinions, as you may have read earlier. Hopefully more people kind of saw my point.

     

    Danny Swish wrote:

     

    LOL. LOL. LOL.

     

    I'm fifteen and even I know when to finally shut the **** up. Seriously, stop, all of you. This thread is meant to be a source of help, not ridiculous, completely out-of-the-blue arguing. Quit "adding fuel to the fire."

  • 4,937. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Danny Swish Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I understood your point, I just wanted to get a generalized stop sign out there for everyone.

     

    Anyway, pertaining to the matter at hand:

     

    I have my recently replaced screen, but it is yellow tinted and has severe lightbleed on the bottom and right edges. So here's what's on the table:

     

    If I replace the screen again (2nd replacement) and it turns out to be good, then I'm done.

     

    If the screen is NOT good, I can replace it for the third time.

     

    If it's not a good screen AGAIN, then I could either return for a refund and wait for the supposed tweaked Macbook Pro Retina said to be coming out, or I could repurchase the laptop all over again, likely with an LG, which will likely suffer from more IR. This is the only computer I have, so what should I do? I'm also considering buying another model of an Apple laptop (Windows makes me want to vomit) and waiting it out, then selling that and getting the improved Retina, causing me to lose money. This is a real shitstorm.

     

    Oh, and I should add that since my laptop came back from this first repair, the trackpad has been clicking funkily on the right half. Not a big deal, works perfectly fine, but...ugh. D*mn OCD.

  • 4,938. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    srhwang Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My second Samsung display has mura and yellow tinting on the left side of the screen. I have a choice of getting another replacement screen but it's not guaranteed to have a perfect screen either. Also, my Apple store's becoming a bit hesitant now. I have until tomorrow to decide whether I want to get the screen replaced again, but if I do, it's probably going to be my last one....

     

    They mentioned I could escalate the case for the possibility of getting a complete refund, but then I would be losing $ if I buy it again due to the student discount.

     

    I think I'm going to try to live with this display until it really becomes an apparent issue...

     

    Further, they did a trackpad test, and it turns out a section of my trackpad in the shape of a horizontal line, is not responding at ALL. I have not noticed this but they have offered to replace the the shell, meaning they'll be putting in a new trackpad, batteries, keyboard, and the aluminum shell. (My little dent's and weird scuffs and marks will be gone yay). They offered without my requesting so I'm pretty satisfied with their service. The geniuses I've talked to so far have been awesome.

  • 4,939. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MarkDDavies Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi guys, another update:

     

    Day 4 No problems, a full 15 minute retina test carried out again with 0 IR. Again in regard to comments on tintage etc. My screen exhibits no anomalies, no light leakage, as of yet 0 IR, no tintage, and is very bright.

     

    Its just as bright as my rMBP 13" and my 27" IMAC.

     

    Color LCD

    LP154WT1-SJA1

    DCN2346006FDMJ0AX

    WEEK 36 Build. (September) built in China.

  • 4,941. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    shad0vv Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    MarkDDavies wrote:

     

    Its just as bright as my rMBP 13" and my 27" IMAC.

     

    Color LCD

    LP154WT1-SJA1

    DCN2346006FDMJ0AX

    WEEK 36 Build. (September) built in China.

    Hook me up with the early release rMBP 13", or better yet, share some leaks!

     

    Well anyways, I'm going to be receiving 2 more rMBPs this Thursday since I have returned 3 units that was LG. I'll update everyone on whether Apple really did drop Samsung as a supplier and if it's true that orders from week 40+ are all LGs. If I do happen to receive both as LGs again, I'm just going to wait patiently for Apple to release the new products on the media event date so I can at least choose a select range of which computer I will preferably purchase, 13" or 15" rMBP.

  • 4,942. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    pescio Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

     

    Well anyways, I'm going to be receiving 2 more rMBPs this Thursday since I have returned 3 units that was LG. I'll update everyone on whether Apple really did drop Samsung as a supplier and if it's true that orders from week 40+ are all LGs. If I do happen to receive both as LGs again, I'm just going to wait patiently for Apple to release the new products on the media event date so I can at least choose a select range of which computer I will preferably purchase, 13" or 15" rMBP.

    I suppose it'll be the exact same story with rMBP 13".

  • 4,943. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Barry Fisher Level 3 Level 3 (655 points)

    Thanks srhwang, Will take a llok. 

  • 4,944. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    srhwang wrote:

     

    I honestly don't even know why you're still arguing. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing because you have some grudge against me, aren't you?

     

    The fact of keeping 'good' LGs, and Apple being unreliable, has nothing to do with eachother.

     

    May I ask if you even own an rMBP?  Oh, seems like you don't. All you've done is read posts in a forum and bash Apple based upon these posts. You've absolutely zero experience in this, you don't even know how any of these issues actually look like in person. Why are you even here? You've no right in arguing over a product's faults that you didn't even experience first hand. Wow, just wow. I've been wasting all this time and brain cells in arguing with a nobody. Shame on me. Do not even bother to reply, not a single word will be read from this point.

    DomdiDom wrote:

     

    srhwang wrote:

     

    Ron, like I said, I am only referring to those who have an otherwise perfect unit, with just extremely minor IR that is only visible in extenuous circumstances, to try to keep a hold of it instead of immediately sending it back for a supposedly-perfect-Samsung.

     

    If you have QC issues like those, then it's a nobrainer that you should be complaining and getting replacements. I have reasonable belief, from scouring this thread, that if you call Apple, they'll be more willing to cater to your circumstances than Geniuses at a physical Apple store... But everyone's miileage may vary, who knows... Apple is so unreliable these days.

     

    Really? you can't have it both ways, You tell people to not dismiss the LG's automatically but then say "everyone's mileage may vary, who knows... Apple is so unreliable these days." That's not consistent is it? The whole reason people are returning them right away is because they can't trust Apple. I don't know what Apple was like before these rmbp's but based on this thread I agree that apple unreliable. Frankly, calling them unreliable is being charitable in regards to the handling of the rmbp problems.

    I see, you keep adding and subtracting, clever way to argue some would call it cowardly.

  • 4,945. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    johns1 wrote:

     

    Can you even begin to understand what you sound like? So because YOU don't have a problem with your computer everyone else should just go away and stop posting here about this topic? LOL.

     

    I honestly don't even know why you're still arguing. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing because you have some grudge against me, aren't you?

     

    The fact of keeping 'good' LGs, and Apple being unreliable, has nothing to do with eachother.

     

    May I ask if you even own an rMBP?  Oh, seems like you don't. All you've done is read posts in a forum and bash Apple based upon these posts. You've absolutely zero experience in this, you don't even know how any of these issues actually look like in person. Why are you even here? You've no right in arguing over a product's faults that you didn't even experience first hand. Wow, just wow. I've been wasting all this time and brain cells in arguing with a nobody. Shame on me. Do not even bother to reply, not a single word will be read from this point.

     

    It seems to me like you should stay out of this one if you don't even have any personal experience with this.  At a lot of different forums, there are people that try to talk about and recommend gear that they have no experience with, and it's just a waste of everyone's time.

     

    Time to heed your own advice and leave when you have no business here. LOL

    I can't even find the post by him that you're quoting, regardless, heed this, you must be his wife. So he has one friend. LOL. As if only rmbp owners have the right to comment.

  • 4,946. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    srhwang wrote:

     

    Sorry Danny, I'm just trying to offer genuinely helpful opinions, as you may have read earlier. Hopefully more people kind of saw my point.

     

    Danny Swish wrote:

     

    LOL. LOL. LOL.

     

    I'm fifteen and even I know when to finally shut the **** up. Seriously, stop, all of you. This thread is meant to be a source of help, not ridiculous, completely out-of-the-blue arguing. Quit "adding fuel to the fire."

    Actually you were trying to persuade people to waste their money on what is most likely to be a defective panel, rather than advise them to wait and not buy yet or return the defective product. Your motives seem transparent to me. Regardless, I'm not going anywhere now.

  • 4,947. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    kiwi1108 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If this helps you at all, this is what I've decided to do. (I kinda started all the new talks yesterday that went a little crazy) - BUT, after reading everything, I've decided to keep my current LG. The screen is beautiful and the IR is VERY faint. (after 30 - 40 minutes) I can see a faint outline of the complete edges of where the window was open. It goes away quickly and even with the CB test, I don't see outlines from the content that was in the window.

     

    I'm HOPING that this means they've began to work on fixing the problem. (if you missed my original post, my first one had bad IR). Since it sounds like a replacement screen is the only way to get a Samsung (should I desire to do so) and I'm pretty sure this one won't fail their test, I've decided to go ahead and use this one for 10 days or so (keeping within my 14) and see how it is doing at that point.

     

    Almost everyone is saying they aren't shipping with Samsung screens anymore and there seems to be quite a few issues with those screens as well.

     

    Since this one looks good, I'm going to hold my breath and cross my fingers.

     

    If I were you, I'd go for another replacement - if it doesn't work out and you've reached your limit, go ahead and return for a refund. Buy a new one so you're starting from scratch and hope that Apple has their S*%# together by that point.

     

    Good Luck!

  • 4,948. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    J.K. ROFLing Level 4 Level 4 (1,220 points)

    That is more than likely the case. In my limited repair experience, there seems to be one part number for parts ordered by service providers and Apple Stores and another used by the repair depot. That is the more likely the reason for the 661-7171/620-5812 part numbers than one being for Samsung and the other LG.

  • 4,949. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    @nt Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi guys.  I purchased a MBPr and received it on 10/11.  I got the 2.6 512gb 16gbRAM (upgraded)  I didn't notice anything until I accidentally came across this thread then I looked for the image retention.  I have to use gray background though.  If I have google up for a couple of minutes then minimize I can see a shadow for like 20-30 seconds (with the gray background).  I can't replicate it with any other background.  Aside from that everything is great and after reading this thread it seems like you take a gamble sending it back and trying to get a better one.  I love my machine.  Not sending it back for sure.  I was wondering for people who have a slight IR issues, wouldn't it better to just hold on to it?  I called Apple Care and they said some retention is noticeable on the new retinas.  He told me that it is normal for it to stay for a couple of seconds but if it gets worse to bring it in and that they have a test designed for it.  I make music so I can only speak from experience but for the professionals out there using there Macbook for work...don't you hate loading up all fo your programs again?  I told him that I definitely do not want a new one even if within the 14 day window because its a pain installing everything.  I would only want the display to be swapped out. 

     

    Also, wouldn't buying the non retina macbook be the best solution for professionals who really need the power of the macbook and don't want to deal with the display issues?  Its basically the same thing minus the retina.  The bottom line is right now Apple's take on it is that these new machines can potentially have some IR for under a minute which is what they consider normal so if you cannot continue to work under these conditions the macbook retina is not for you.  They are not forcing you to buy anything and they address IR and said this is normal.  We can go on and on about how this is horrible and  question how they could sell us a faulty product.  There's an easy solution.  Return it.  Wait for a 2nd gen or get a non retina which is still an amazing machine.  For those who experiencing longer IR than a minute then by all means this is considered defective so take it in.  The rep I was talking to also urged me to do this.  Those are actually defective.  For those of you who are starting up your computer for the first time and loading a grey background and testing it and seeing IR for a few seconds and returning it...you might be better off just getting a different machine.  They have openly told the public this IR can be noticed on this machine.  If your a graphic designer then don't get one right?  I mean...its pretty simple.  

     

    So for new people reading this thread save yourself the hassle of reading every page which is what I did and decreased my productivity at work back a day.  LOL!  This is what's going on...

     

    NEW MBPr's HAVE IR.  Accept it and make your decision with this assumption and save yourself the time and agony.  If IR persists more than a minute it is defective.  You can use the gray background to check but this is normal for the new MBPr.  Apple is telling you this is normal for their product.  It is THEIR product so they are telling you in advance slight IR normal.  Don't buy it if you can't complete work with IR.  Grab something else.  Yes, some people are getting samsung screens and reports show IR is less on these screens but lately I've been reading about more issues found on the sammy's.  Apple will test it out when you bring it in and swap out the display.  This is the best solution IMO because then you won't have to install everything all over again.