ianbrace wrote:
Hi everyone. Thanks for all the help and info.
I worked out a really easy way.
- Move or Mail or Mail(original) and the new Mail 4.6 from Applications to Trash. Do not empty Trash or delete them. They may be needed again if things dont work.
- Instal Mail from snow leopard install disk into Applications. It will be 4. ? less than .5
- Re run SecUpd2012-004 either from where you down loaded it to or from apple updates site.
- Restart computer and check if you have a new Mail file in Applications.
- Check if mail opens.... if it does great. Empty Mail files from trash
- If not try the complicated routes above.
That's it, Ian, in a nutshell. You've got it.
Once I had it sorted in my head it took 10 mins to do it. But I could not have fathomed it without all the work from Kevin. Thanks Kevin great work.
Well THANK YOU, Ian!
The majority of my fixit texts tend to be long because many times instead of just saying "do this" or "do that" I like to tell people WHY they're "doing this" or "doing that." Most helpers on here don't do that, but I do. I like knowing that the reader(s) who's dealing with the problem has all or at least some idea of the "why" of what they're doing. That takes quite a lot more typing than the usual fixit response on here, usually.
It really is poor form on Apples part allowing this to happen and even continue to have the upgrade out there for several weeks knowing it does not work for Snow Leopard!
BINGO. Yeah. Reminds me of Microsoft's basic regard of its customers; i.e...... "DEAL WITH IT!"
Kinda strange about Apple & this particular Update snafu that occurred with lots & lots & lots of people....
But I hope their mostly ignorance of their customers' problems with this particular Update is not foreboding of more of the samesuch down the road. yikes.
Steve? Steve? Ya hear me Steve?? Little help here.....
Regards
Ian Bracegirdle
Couple of things which come immediately to my mind that could be causing that, Ian:
1. Your SMTP settings in your Mail account are not set correctly, and/or
2. You've got a Virtual Private Network (VPN) set up, or vestiges of an old one running in a background process that you thought you'd gotten rid of, keeping your Mail from sending messages out, though you can receive them through such a possible active VPN vestige. If you've got, or think you've got, such a VPN, try deactivating it.
I'd first check out your SMTP settings in the account that you get your mail in & out of in Mail though. Most likely cause.....
In Mail, click: "File => Preferences => Accounts [tab] => and then click on the name of your account that's you're not able to send from.
Then in that account's setting window, click on the "Account Information" button at top. Down at the bottom of that window you'll see "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)."
What do you see there?
Next, click on whatever words are showing there for that......
What do you see in the dropdown list when you click on those words?
In a reply, post the answers in here to those 2 questions of mine.
If your SMTP settings look ok as far as you know (and if you're at all doubtful of those settings, let us know that so that I / we don't bypass that possibility & erroneously go off on the wrong path!). *IF* you've got that account accessing mail through an IMAP server, try changing those settings that say something like "imap.mymail.com" to "pop.mymail.com" or "pop3.mymail.com" instead [goes w/o saying that I'm using the domain name "mymail.com" fictitiously here].
In a nutshell, an IMAP server lets you maninipulate your mail that's on your mail's server in real time; not so with the much more popular easier-to-access POP server mode. IMAP server settings are a bit more finniky and precise than POP server settings are.
Would like to know though Ian, is your email thru Google; i.e., is your address a GMail.com address?
If so, then that will likely greatly simplify fixing your problem, unless you're using a VPN or have an old VPN that's not quite all deactivated/eliminated, in which case either an IMAP or POP server's SMTP settings would likely be not part of or all of the problem.
Kevin Kendall