Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2012 10:31 AM (in response to john afromannapolis)
Apple is not listening here, this is a user-to-user site, and they would not listen to your advice at all. That is not the way marketing is, or ever has been, done.
There are more than 200 new features is Mountain Lion and not all of them can be used on every machine that runs ML. Since you can't run Mirroring I also know you cannot run Power Nap. So you are down to 198 features, not counting the fact that ML is faster than Lion, etc. That comes out to about $ 0.10 per feature so you should contact Apple and ask for your twenty cents back.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2012 10:34 AM (in response to john afromannapolis)
Apple does, up front, tell you to make sure your Mac is compatible with Mountain Lion, and provides the link I posted previously, which clearly breaks down the requirements for certain features. You do not need to scour the 'fine print' or scroll down the page very far to find it.
When I am doing my research on upgrading to the next major version of software, this type of page (Technical Specifications) is my first stop. Maybe you'll learn that, too.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2012 10:55 AM (in response to deggie)
Um, actually, listening to your users is how marketing works. If apple is smart, which they are, they most certainly are reading this kind of feedback. Usually you have to pay for this kind of information.
if a large segement of users are complaining (like this thread), it damages the all important apple brand. That's a marketing problem. Look, it's not the money. It's the "I was excited, now I'm not" factor. I hear this quite often from product managers: we put it in the fine print - we told them, they didn't listen. Stupid users. Well, that may be a valid excuse, but it doesn't but the lost revenue back on the income statement. It's actually a marketing communications failure. Never, ever, create demand for something you can't deliver on. Don't bury that information, make sure it's there alongside the main message. If you were running apple, if suspect you'd have a very dedicated, technically savy, thorough and happy bunch of users. Of course it would be a much smaller segment of the population... Like I said, they are turning into microsoft. I'll vote with my dollars rather than typing more.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2012 10:58 AM (in response to john afromannapolis)
No, listening to users is oftentimes an extremely bad idea.
And there is a teeny percentage of people complaining about this.
Yes, that is exactly what you should do.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 9, 2012 2:19 AM (in response to jcetheredge)
i dont know what really im exciting about airplay mirroring on mountain lion. well, i mean i was exciting. but after i installed the airplay mirroring on my macbook pro. the airplay mirroring is not what im expected. i tried to use it for screen play, photo viewing, and plays some musics and movie on itunes. its play smoothly. but when i try to play some streaming videos from youtube, megashare and other website that content streaming video and airplay to apple tv. the result is really awfull. i think airplay mirroring just only a software that can be installed into the macbook at least 2011. it's really doesn't make any sense to me, that's airplay mirroring just only can support on some hardware on latest mac or idevices. and airplay mirroring, siri doesn't work on iphone 4 or itouch 4 either. oh come on apple, its just a software. i don't know if from apple will delete my reply on this forum or not if i telling u guys that some people all ready proving 3d maps can be enable on iphone 4 and itouch 4 on cydia.
well, my bottom line is maybe this is the way how they sell the newest apple's product in the marketing. i hope from apple will give customer the explanations about y some features just works on some latest device or product....
Currently Being ModeratedOct 10, 2012 4:14 PM (in response to jcetheredge)
These are all valid suggestions, recommendations, concerns and complaints. Bottom line: Apple is about pleasing the customer with technology we " didn't know we needed." In this case, they mislead the customer base.
It wouldn't take much effort when they do do the big release events, describing the new features to simply say, "Here is a great new feature for those of you that own the iMac from xxxx date or newer." It would save a lot of disappointment. I would have purchased ML regardless, but it does feel like false advertising when they imply a feature works on all equipment.
It won't work on my MacBook Pro either.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 13, 2012 5:42 PM (in response to jcetheredge)
hope this message finds you all in time. The recent Apple TV update 5.1 is terrible. Apple knows it is which is why (thankfully for some relentless user -I have no idea who but I believe it was under threat) they have allowed to sign 5.0.2 again which means you can downgrade your Apple TV 2 and 3 to a 5.0.2 version via iTunes. Who knows how long they will keep the window open but I have downgraded my ATV early this morning. I couldn't post this earlier because I was out all day but I am doing it now.
Here's how to do it:
1) Connect your ATV to your computer via a Mini USB (not included with ATV but included with many other electronic devices) - in order for your ATV to appear in iTunes you must FIRST plug the USB cable to your computer and ATV and only THEN plug the power cable.
2) Download your ipsw restore file from Apple.
5.0.2 (ATV 2): AppleTV2,1_5.0.2_9B830_Restore.ipsw
5.0.2 (ATV 3): AppleTV3,1_5.0.2_9B830_Restore.ipsw
3) In iTunes select yout ATV, hold SHIFT and click on Restore
4) Find and choose the downloaded IPSW file in the Open Dialog Box and hit Next
5) As long as Apple still signs that version the Restore process will begin and will take a few minutes to complete.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 22, 2012 11:47 PM (in response to jcetheredge)
Coming from a programming / animation background, I embrace Macs for their speed and stability. What I still don't understand, is how some people will defend, and at times celebrate things the products don't do. I really thought blaming the user was something confined to the PC community. Hopefully you can either find a solution or make one.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 25, 2012 3:18 PM (in response to jcetheredge)
I just called Apple Support as well. I have a Mid 2010 iMac 27" with i7 processor and this is not available for my computer! 6 months too old! Crazy!
If I can use Airplay through iTunes to my Apple TV3 or Airport Express why can't I use it through the OS? Makes no sense!
This was the only reason why I upgraded to ML.
Please release an update and make available to more models. If I can stream Rdio from an iPhone 4 to Apple TV I should be able to on ML!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2012 2:46 PM (in response to jcetheredge)
Although I have a Mid 2010 iMac i7 processor and was told by Apple that I cannot mirror audio to ATV3 today I was able.
I held option and clicked on menu volume icon and selected Apple TV. For some reason today it worked. I can now listen to desktop Rdio through my sound system connected to ATV.
Hope it will work for others.
Currently Being ModeratedOct 26, 2012 4:43 PM (in response to CoreyDufort)
i didnt see that clear about ur screen shot. but u probably talk about airplay. not the "airplay mirroring". u can do airplay on notebook or dekstop made before mid 2012, iphone 4 itouch 4. but those can not do the "airplay mirroring". its different between "AIRPLAY" and "AIRPLAY MIRRORING"....
Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2012 7:08 PM (in response to anok goh)
Dear Apple -
Ever since you got into the "content" market, you've been, well, frankly, ********.
An old fan.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 1, 2012 10:40 AM (in response to jcetheredge)
Apple website clearly states: AirPlay Mirroring requires a second-generation Apple TV or later, and is supported on the following Mac models: iMac (Mid 2011 or newer), Mac mini (Mid 2011 or newer), MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer), and MacBook Pro (Early 2011 or newer).
Do not blame Apple if you don't bother to read the information provided.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 1, 2012 11:15 AM (in response to john afromannapolis)
john afromannapolis wrote:
thanks, i can use google too. In fact, once I know I'm looking for it, wow, I can find it. The problem is APPLE DIDN"T TELL ME UP FRONT.
You expect Apple to answer any question you failed to ask? dream on. Apple posted the requirements (see post from GreggRand) you didn't check.
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