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  • 15. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Where does APPLE support your allegation?

  • 16. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    JimHdk Level 7 Level 7 (23,635 points)

    I'm not confusing anything with anything. If that makes any sense.

     

    The power control chips which are present in the battery charging circuitry of all the iPad models (as well as in the other Apple devices) can make use of the increased capacity of the new charger. For example, if you charge an iPod Touch with the current 10W charger it will charge much faster than if you use the 5W charger.

     

    I don't know of an Apple article which explicitly states this but I believe that the 12W charger is the Apple response to the complaints from customers that the empty to full charge time for the iPad 3 was too long.

  • 17. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Semp1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Yes Jim is right.  I don't even understand how this is an argument at this point in time.  It's known by any one who has owned multiple Apple devices and has used the 10w charger on the iPhone.   Phil Schiller straight up stated the 12w will charge iPads faster.  What more do you need.  

  • 18. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    peggy2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I still don't see where Phil Schiller actually says it will charge faster.  The article referenced just says "Apple" says.  That could have just been someone calling an Apple store and the kid answering the phone said so. 

     

    I also do not see under the Apple Store discription, anywhere where is says that it charges faster.

    It just says that it it compatible with the iPad 3.

    I am still at a loss on all of the different opinions here.

  • 19. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (30,315 points)

    Your statement, "This is common knowledge" is inferring that we should all know this and if we don't, we don't know our products. That's an assumption that flies in the face of what we do know about our products, the charger does not "push" power, the charger has a top end cut off at what it will supply to a device, but the device has to "pull" the energy from the charger. So you are here claiming that an iPad 3 or an iPhone will actually pull more power from the charger than the charger that originally came with them will supply. Where is your factual evidence that this is the case?

  • 20. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Semp1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Ok you're right, I'm not having a debate or arguing.  The only proof one needs is to watch the charge rate difference on the 10w compared to the 5w with any iPhone, or a similar comparison would be the fact that only high powered USBs like ones on more recent macbook pro's will slowly charge iPads and regular powered ones on older computers will not.  Believe what you would like but the right answer is. Yes higher watt chargers from Apple will charge the iPad and iPhone slightly faster. 

  • 21. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    JimHdk Level 7 Level 7 (23,635 points)

    Let's not start an argument about this. Heaven knows there are enough of them on the iPad 3 already raging in this forum! ;-)

     

    All modern electronic devices contain complex circuitry to control charging. It will control the rate of charging based on what rates the batteries can handle and how much power is available.

     

    Just try the test of charging an iPod Touch using the 10W iPad charger rather than the USB or 5W charger and see what happens.

     

    If you still are unsure I guess we can just buy a 12W charger and see how long it takes to charge the various iPad models.

  • 22. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (30,315 points)

    I'm afraid that the argument was already started.

  • 23. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    JimHdk wrote:

     

    I'm not confusing anything with anything. If that makes any sense.

     

    The power control chips which are present in the battery charging circuitry of all the iPad models (as well as in the other Apple devices) can make use of the increased capacity of the new charger. For example, if you charge an iPod Touch with the current 10W charger it will charge much faster than if you use the 5W charger.

     

    I don't know of an Apple article which explicitly states this but I believe that the 12W charger is the Apple response to the complaints from customers that the empty to full charge time for the iPad 3 was too long.

    Jim, that is patently untrue.

  • 24. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    You alleged that Apple supports your belief.  The only thing that you provided was a link where someone else says tghat Apple says.  Where is Apple's statement to that effect?

  • 25. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Semp1 wrote:

     

    Ok you're right, I'm not having a debate or arguing.  The only proof one needs is to watch the charge rate difference on the 10w compared to the 5w with any iPhone, or a similar comparison would be the fact that only high powered USBs like ones on more recent macbook pro's will slowly charge iPads and regular powered ones on older computers will not.  Believe what you would like but the right answer is. Yes higher watt chargers from Apple will charge the iPad and iPhone slightly faster. 

    No it doesn't.  Your belief flies in the face of electrical principles.

     

    You're confused with the fact that an under-powered source will charge the battery slower.  That, however, does not mean that an over-powered source will charge faster.

  • 26. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    JimHdk wrote:

     

    Just try the test of charging an iPod Touch using the 10W iPad charger rather than the USB or 5W charger and see what happens.

    The comparison with USB is not valid as many USP sources are under-powered.  However, if you charge the Touch with the 10W charger and again with the 5W charger, the charge times will be the same.

  • 28. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (11,705 points)

    Wonderful.  Another allegation regarding what "Apple says."  Where is Apple's actual statement?

  • 29. Re: Will the new 12W power adapter charge my iPad 3rd gen faster?
    Semp1 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    My comparison is valid when realizing the 5w and 10w is basically an under powered source that Apple included with the iPhone and iPad 3. Which is why the 10w does charge the iphone and the 12w will charge the ipad faster.