11 Replies Latest reply: Apr 18, 2013 11:31 AM by D Anderson
ksphotog Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

All,

 

Hope some Apple folks in support or dev might read this forum. My handy software update popped up today and said there was new camera RAW support and I was HAPPY, until I noticed YET again there is no support for the Fuji X-Pro 1 (Fuji's flagship camera)

 

Working professional photographer here. I work for a large university and also freelance with a good client base.

 

I have switched my camera package to the new Fuji X-Pro (well it's actually been out coming up on a year) and I LOVE...repeat LOVE Aperture. It is part of my daily workflow..until now. I've had all kinds of issues get trying to get Fuji RAW files to work somehow with my beloved Aperture. My current work around was simply shooting high quality jpg and archving the raw until Apple updates Aperture for the .RAF files.

 

This simply had to stop being my workflow and my company purchased Lightroom so I can work within the the RAW files. Will someone at Apple actually listen?? Please get an updated camera RAW to include the Fuji X-Pro 1!!! Holy crap!!!

  • 1. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,695 points)

    We are just users here. Although if I was Tim Cook Apple would have engineers lurking these forums, I certainly would not count on any rant here getting to Apple. They have a PITA very un-Apple-like feedback process for that.

     

    Over the years there have been hundreds maybe thousands of posts like yours. IMO it is the height of incompetence that Apple sells a pro app but is always slower than the competition to support new cameras. It forces users away from Aperture, incredibly dumb marketing. Someone at a high pay grade is making some bad choices.

     

    The good news is that Apple is much more responsive now than it was in the past, but as your post indicates it still is not good enough.

     

    -Allen

  • 2. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    phosgraphis Level 2 Level 2 (295 points)

    ksphotog wrote:

     

    This simply had to stop being my workflow and my company purchased Lightroom so I can work within the the RAW files. Will someone at Apple actually listen?? Please get an updated camera RAW to include the Fuji X-Pro 1!!! Holy crap!!!

    Please let us know how it goes with Lightroom. Adobe's latest camera support document doesn't list the camera, and there are reports of problems with what has been made available so far in betas and RC's.

  • 3. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    Thomas Emmerich Level 4 Level 4 (3,485 points)

    Apple has certainly improved the speed of RAW updates over the last couple of years. For example, Canon T3i and T4i support was provided on or before the camera's could be bought in the US. And the EOS-M support was just added with the latest RAW update and that camera is only now becoming available in the US. The D800 and 5DmIII support was provided within a month of camera release.

     

    The Fuji seems to be an outlier. They must have a reason (that we'll never know) why RAW support for the Fuji is not forthcoming.

  • 4. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    Keith Barkley Level 5 Level 5 (5,255 points)

    It has the new "random" matrix instead of a bayer matrix.

  • 5. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)

    Non-Bayer sensors simply aren't supported, regardless of whether it's the X-Pro 1 or Sigma's Foveon cameras. I can see that writing the reconstruction algorithms for the X-Trans sensor would prove tricky, but the Foveon sensor seems easy. Maybe Apertuer 4 will provide support when it's released in 2015

     

    —Andreas

  • 6. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    Keith Barkley Level 5 Level 5 (5,255 points)

    Except the foveon has uneven luminance values across the chip given that the red sensor is deeper than the others. I don't think it is a simple "get the rgb values at each pixel and you are done" type of deal.

  • 7. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)

    It's not "get the rgb values at each pixel and you are done", but there's no demosiacing involved. The X-Trans sensor presents some non-trivial challenges in that regard, and ACR has obvious trouble rendering sharp edges.

     

    —Andreas

  • 8. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    Keith Barkley Level 5 Level 5 (5,255 points)

    It really appears that bayer de-mosaicing is deeply embedded in the RAW conversion as it stands now.

     

    And while there may be no de-mosaicing for the foveon, you do get a lot of cross-coupling in the pixel. For example, if you have a color with a lot of blue and little red, some of the blue signal might leak into the red signal.

     

    At least according to wikipedia.

  • 9. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    rogerhyam Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am surprised Fujifilm don't work with Apple on this kind of thing. Surely it is in their interests to have the camera supported and they have the knowledge.

  • 10. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    AdamHadem Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Finally! Fuji X Pro1 RAW converter for Aperture is available. And it looks pretty good.

  • 11. Re: Fuji X Pro-1 no RAW support...again
    D Anderson Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    Yes! Looking very nice indeed.