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No DVD drive in new iMac ???

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  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (22,100 points)
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    Oct 31, 2012 9:27 PM (in response to David M Brewer)

    Silly question: why would that kill DVDs? I use H264 right now and use DVDs......

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,255 points)
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    Oct 31, 2012 9:40 PM (in response to pipogoro)

    Good Post !

     

    There is good news coming!

     

    Technology experts are working on a movie storage system where YOU have physical possession of the movie.

     

    This system stores the movie digitally on an optical disk system that will not be dependent upon a congested, complicated, and fragile network.

     

    Because all of the data is stored only a few feet from your television, all the bottlenecks are removed.  Performance and reliability are virtually flawless.

     

    Further, the system will not utilize any form of security codes, authentications, or passwords. Once the optical disc is purchased it can be moved around freely at will, and can even be lent or given to friends and neighbors with zero hassles.

     

    I can't wate!

  • Ian R. Brown Level 6 Level 6 (17,495 points)
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    Nov 1, 2012 1:16 AM (in response to Ziatron)

    Where can I get it!

     

    Put my name down for one.

  • pipogoro Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 1, 2012 7:00 AM (in response to Ziatron)

    Hi there!!!! I’ve been reading the posts and found that there is so much to talk about!!!!!

    First some trash talk that I really don’t find fascinating at all… I think over the years we’ve all experienced problems not only ourselves but from buddies that went apple too… When something breaks on a computer it usually happens in the worst time ever!!! I didn’t know that iMac DVD writers were so faulty I have no experience with iMac!!! The only knowledge I have is from a friend that used to do weddings too and it worked like a charm!!!

     

    I’ve seen with my own eyes Dual G5 brand new, with a burned up firewire port. People trash talking the G5 as the worst idea ever, etc. I experienced hard drive failure and DVD failure on my G5, keyboard and mouse died after too many battles. All of this things happened when my buddies or me needed to keep working with the thing… A failure is something not to laugh about cause to some people it means you are out of business for a while…

     

    Some people say that older computer would do the job or going on the used market for mac pro or something. It sounds to me like the excuses some guy gave me at the time, not to go from windows 3.1 to windows 95... Regrettably in my experience new is always better suited for newer technologies. And in this case for me at least, if you can’t buy the tank (mac pro) you go for the humvee (imac)…

     

    I’m glad on the one hand that new systems and technologies are coming, it should put me at ease but instead it get’s me restless…. New formats of compression and optic drives means for me one thing… 4K… Prototypes are out there even some cameras come with a chip (ccd,cmos, whatever) ready to perform 4K…

    Some cameras like the RED are now on 5 or 6K. Part of their business is their Rocket PCI card and Barco High resolution monitors that can achieve the 4-5-6 K.

     

    I say I’m restless because I know the technology and it needs a lot of firepower. New iMac obviously don’t come ready for that… With retina display they would still be lacking the power of resolving 4K…

    So going to older mac pro would be Ok but you are stuck with 4gbsec instead of thunderbolt that’s 10gbsec. If I’m not worng there is still no PCI to Thunderbolt. And it seems it’s a solution that wont’ come to older mac pro cause they wouldn’t sell the new models as much… Not to forget that sales from Mac Pro are a bit stiff for a long time now they are made on request and the other day I saw a drop on core count…

     

    I will definetly buy iMac don’t think it’s all I need but it will give me the option to work HD flawless. Thunderbolt will give me the option of having a proper raid/display solution. And as for the ram and video I’ll have to put all the chips at the buying time… I’ll need all that firepower for what it’s to come!!!!

     

    P.S.; Sorry for the bible!!!!

  • David M Brewer Level 6 Level 6 (9,185 points)
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    Nov 1, 2012 8:25 AM (in response to babowa)

    babowa wrote:

     

    Silly question: why would that kill DVDs? I use H264 right now and use DVDs......

    H.265

  • tjmch Calculating status...
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    Nov 8, 2012 9:26 PM (in response to grandfield)

    HISTORICAL FLASHBACK:  The last time I had to buy an external drive for a Macintosh computer to save or share my work with others was my first 128K Mac that I bought in 1984.

     

    With no disk drive in the latest iMAC is it 1984 again?

     

    So if I upgrade to the newest iMac I Can't play my music CDs, can't record music I make in Garage band,  can't burn DVDs of my iMovies.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,805 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 9:59 PM (in response to tjmch)

    Indeed, do you think Apple wants you to play your CDs, or buy Music from the iTunes store... 2 guesses on lt to get it right!

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (22,100 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:06 PM (in response to BDAqua)

    Aren't you supposed to "cloud" them to your iPhone, iPod or whatever and listen there? Same with movies, burning DVDs is sooo... 90's (?); excuse me, need to check on Toast to see if the last DVD is ready (burning a new project to 20 DVDs on my external burner for friends and family who want it on DVDs).........

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,805 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:22 PM (in response to babowa)

    Oh NO, I think you just alerted Apple that there's workarounds... now what1???

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (22,100 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:40 PM (in response to BDAqua)

    That's ok, they probably won't mind since it's such an outdated concept, they'll just ignore it 

  • tjmch Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:44 PM (in response to babowa)

    THE CLOUD DOES NOT DO EVERYTHING WELL YET:

    GOOD: I have successfully used the Google Docs tools in the Cloud to create, store, & share much of my numerical & text work since 2009.

     

    GOOD: I have created hundreds of Google "My Maps" and embedded them in my websites.

     

    BAD: Using the cloud to store videos & photo libraries that I only want selected people to see has caused me many problems:  You Tube's "Private" setting which supposedly allows me to send a url to selected viewers often can not be opened.  The "Public" privacy setting which anyone can open & copy works fine.

     

    BAD:  I can't have a high speed DSL at my house - so backing up big photo / video files on the cloud takes forever.

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (22,100 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:57 PM (in response to tjmch)

    I was being facetious - I've chosen not to use the cloud due to a) privacy concerns and b) I do not trust online servers - they will get hacked sooner or later, so I will not trust any of my information to a machine not under my control. A similar concern applies to Youtube or any other such site I've checked: although their terms clearly forbid downloads unless a download button is present, pretty much everyone downloads the stuff, so I will not upload anything unless I don't care if it is stolen. And I do care - unless I give you something I've created as a gift, you will need to pay for it if you want to see it.

  • seventy one Level 6 Level 6 (8,525 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 11:05 PM (in response to babowa)

    Absolutely, Babowa.

     

    I've always viewed iCloud as a potential security threat.   So glad to see our more senior people feel similarly now.

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (22,100 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 11:20 PM (in response to seventy one)

    Not sure, but I think I may be just one person with that opinion; by the way, if you're concerned about privacy, location services and dictation both phone home (one to map your location, the other to send your spoken words to Apple's servers where they will remain stored).

  • Creeper523 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 11:25 PM (in response to babowa)

    That's what netshade is for . Apple thinks I'm in the UK when I'm actually in the US. I never store MY stuff on other people's server I have no control over.

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