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saymay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hello, it seems ridiculous that Apples iCloud doesn't allow you to backup your entire iPhoto library... so I'm looking for some advice on the best alternative options. I currently have TM backup automatically, but I travel between the USA and Europe often and would love a safe and simple online backup system. Anyone have reccomendations? Carbonite? Dropbox?

Thanks in advance!


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  • 1. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,675 points)

    None. Many problems with cloud backup including the fact that putting thebiPhoyo library on a volume not formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) creates problems and the iPhoto library typically is large making cloud downloading really slow

     

    Wbuy a portable drive and carry it with you

     

    LN

  • 2. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    saymay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Larry, I do actually travel with a HD. To be more specific, I would like the convenience of an online backup service because I recently encountered a bit of a scary situation... I had to evacuate my home in an emergency because of a gas line break in my neighborhood. My daughter, my dog and I all got out safely, however I was more stressed about the potential loss of my iPhoto library than anything else in my house! My computer and all of my physical backup devices were left in the house. Thankfully after a day away from our homes the problem was resolved and nothing was lost, but It has definitely lead me on the hunt for an online backup solution for both travel and the situation I mentioned above!

  • 3. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,850 points)

    Online doesn’t really work for iPhoto because most solutions don't understand the iPhoto Library structures and also because of the massive amounts of data involved. We often see folks on here complaining of restores taking days to complete.

     

    But you do raise a very important issue and this is what I have done in this case:

     

    My Library lives on my iMac. It’s Backed up to  two external hard disks every day. These disks are permanently attached to the iMac. These back ups run automatically. One is done by Time Machine, one is a bootable back up done by SuperDuper

     

    It’s also backed up to a portable hard disk when ever new photos are added. This hard disk lives in my car. For security, this disk is password protected.

     

    I have a second off-site back up at a relative’s house across town. That’s updated every 3 or 4 months.

     

    My Photos are backed up online. There are many options: Flickr, Picasa, SmugMug etc. However, check the terms of your account carefully. While most sites have free uploading, you will often find that these uploads are limited in terms of the file size or the bandwidth you can use per month. For access that allows you to upload full size pics with no restrictions you may need to pay.

     

    Every couple of months I test the back ups to make sure they are working correctly. It’s very easy to mis-configure a back up application, and the only way to protect against that is to do a trial restore.

  • 4. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,700 points)

    Use online storage for just the original photos. To do that upload from your camera to a folder on the desktop before importing into iPhoto. You can then have that folder uploaded to the online storage.  That would be much less to upload than a full library.

     

    Also, uploading to a folder allows you to give the folder (and the resulting Event) the name you want and rename the photos if so desired to get rid of the boring "IMG_001.jpg" type of file name.  I use a file remaner to rename them with their EXIF Capture date like this: 2012-03-10-001.JPG.

     

    OT

  • 5. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    BrettDaren Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes icloud has not much storage space. Although I have stored all my files and photo related storage on Just Cloud. It enabled me to store securely, share easily and access files, data from anywhere virtually. JustCloud storage platform includes JustCloud also provides 15 MB free and features including like easy file restoration, Restore deleted files, alsoremote file transfer and others. Although SugarSync will also provides similar features and capabilities. I got related blog post which includes Cloud storage providers with features and full specifications.

     

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  • 6. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,850 points)

    Thanks for the advertisment, but it doesn’t deal with any of the issues raised re cloud storage and iPhoto - massive data transfers and disk formats

  • 7. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    intheforrest Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks everyone for your input. I've been asking around and received some more suggestions... anyone had experience or have any thoughts on these options?
         Jungle Disk?
         Skydrive?

         Pogoplug?

     

    FYI this is "saymay" wasn't aware that I have 2 different aliases

  • 8. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    ken.atwell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I too have been looking for a cloud-based photo manager.  It is indeed too bad iPhoto/iCloud can't serve this purpose (yet?).  Photo Stream is deceptive in that is lures you into thinking your data is secure in the cloud, when its only there for a 30 day window.

     

    I currently have my photo on RAID 1 NAS, meaning the *two* drives need to fail to loose my data, but off-site backup would be better.  That said, I'm unwilling to go through the contortions that Terrence above desbribes.

     

    I've been dabbling with Adobe Revel and so far, so good.

    Pros:

    + Unlimited photos, perportedly at full resolution

    + Synching with OS X and iOS devices

    Cons:

    - Costs money, currently $6 a month

    - Limited platform support, if you need Android or Windows (Adobe says its coming)

    - Very limited feature set just now, it really needs tagging/search, facial recognization, print ordering, etc.

     

    Anyhow, another one to consider.

  • 9. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,700 points)

    Photo Stream is deceptive in that is lures you into thinking your data is secure in the cloud, when its only there for a 30 day window.

     

    You must not have been paying very close attention to all the early hoopla about iCloud nor the Apple iCloud website which includes this description:

     

    1000 of your latest photos. With you all the time.

    iCloud manages your Photo Stream efficiently so you don’t run out of storage space on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. If you have Photo Stream enabled on your iOS device, every single photo you take appears in a special Photo Stream album that holds your last 1000 photos. You can delete any photos you don’t want from the Photo Stream.1 To touch up a photo or keep a favorite shot permanently, simply save it to your Camera Roll. iCloud stores new photos for 30 days, so you have plenty of time to connect your iOS device to Wi-Fi and make sure you always have your most recent shots handy.

     

    The 30 day limit was one of the early features of iCloud/Photo Stream that was discussed indetail in the forums and in other websites like MacWorld and MacInTouch.

     

    Right out of the gate it was clearly stated that there was no online, permanent storage of photos.  The oneline storage was more for music and documents from Pages, etc.

  • 10. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,675 points)

    PS is certainly not deceptive. This is extremely clear.

     

    1000 of your latest photos. With you all the time.

    iCloud manages your Photo Stream efficiently so you don’t run out of storage space on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. If you have Photo Stream enabled on your iOS device, every single photo you take appears in a special Photo Stream album that holds your last 1000 photos. You can delete any photos you don’t want from the Photo Stream.1 To touch up a photo or keep a favorite shot permanently, simply save it to your Camera Roll. iCloud stores new photos for 30 days, so you have plenty of time to connect your iOS device to Wi-Fi and make sure you always have your most recent shots handy.

     

     

    And in addition you are risking major problems since the iPhoto library must reside on a volume formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) so unless you have a NAS that I've not seen or you have a properly formatted disk image on your NAS you are not meeting this requirement and will have problems

     

    LN

  • 11. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    ken.atwell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Agreed on "not deceptive"... for the engaged 1% that read past the headlines, research things on MacWorld, and contribute to forums like this one.  My opinion only, I still contend for the 99%, Photo Stream can give a false sense of security.  Regardless, we can all agree Photo Steam is not suitable for "sticky" for cloud photo management.

     

    @LarryHN, right, my NAS is not Mac OS formatted, but I'm okay with this.  I don't care about iPhoto per se, but I do very much care about have a raw archive of JPEGs in some form.  Even if iPhoto goes "poof", the raw images would still be intact on the NAS.  Sure, I might loose some useful iPhoto metadata, but the truly valuable content would not be lost.

  • 12. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    sabih.ahmed Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You are absolutely correct and i think that Apple should do something about it because the storage space is way too less if you compare it with what other storage companies are offering. I prefer Dropbox for my iPhone because not only the name is too big but it has certain features that make the service apart from the rest of the competitors. Yes i know that there are a lot of options available in the market and though they are good too. I got a total of 25GB on my Dropbox and it is hard to leave them now Carbonite is also good but i believe better is to invest on JustCloud because it is cheaper than others (Other than Dropbox).

     

    Compare Dropbox, JustCloud & iCloud Now: http://www.cloudreviews.com/comparison/dropbox-reviews-VS-just-cloud-reviews-VS- icloud-reviews.html

  • 13. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,850 points)

    Thanks for the Advertising but again, does not in any way deal with the real world issues of formats and massive data transfers.

  • 14. Re: Best Cloud Storage for iPhoto backup?
    sabih.ahmed Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Why not? Cloud storage has the compatibility to cater such kind of requirements. How much massive data storage do you intend to store?

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