To all that have shared their frustrating experiences with me on this thread,
Forget about Home Sharing and wondering even if iTunes 11 will fix this: download StreamToMe @ $2.99 in App Store and then download ServeToMe (free) on your Mac or PC. I love it, may never go back to Home Sharing. Thank you to those that have pointed the App out to us in this thread.
Please note the following is an opinion of mine that has grown over the last year and yes it does coincide with Steve Jobs' unfortunate departure, yet I'm not sure if his continued presence would have made any difference since its the same management team that produced iOS 6 except that Cook is now at the helm. I would like to believe had Jobs been able to continue, he would have yelled and cajoled and even possible thrown his famous temper, tantrums and all and not released some of the crap that we have had to deal with.
IMHO, Apple will have some major hurdles over the next twelve months. They have a new management team taking them, I hope, in a better and different direction; but that task may have its difficulties. Many users have had bad experiences with iOS and their product loyalties may be in question. Apple cannot afford another fiasco unless they are prepared to watch future users go to Android based tablets and phones, and there are going to be others available soon on the market. The release of a new "iTunes version" or "iOS" that is nothing less than the solid and bulletproof of our past rememberences is going to be necessary for future releases. Apple has divorced itself from using the past and proven like Google and Samsung over legal squabbles. Their claims may be valid, yet their profits keep growing. Have they learned anything from the past like when they were a completely closed source company that almost went under had it not been for others such as Bill Gates investing huge quantities of cash. Sure Gates' motive may have been to make sure Microsoft wasn't quite perceived as the monopoly it was. Steve Jobs brought his expertise and people from Next and possibly others. He opened the door to outsiders, Googles CEO was on the board for a period of time until apparent conflicts of interests were brought into question, yet the company used Google Maps up until this year. Now they are starting to circle the wagons and close the door because the idea that competition is good is not, again IMHO, good for Apple's "let's squeeze everyone out so our profits will be better".
Quite frankly, I hope they make it, not only because all my tech is Apple but because it will show those of us that are now questioning our future purchases that the company is serious in the "customer driven" approach of the past. Having said that I am quite prepared to jump ship should it be anything less and soon since its time to replace my 2008 iMac, which will be in the first half of next year. With all the streaming and processes I use, the duo core is barely able to keep up as the center of my family's media center. This next purchase will be researched as well as possible and I will not take the word of manufacturer's employees at face value any longer.
Again, this is just my opinion, I'm not a tech guy nor industry guru. Just a simple user that does not wish to beta test products that I use. I hope I have not offended; my history and memory may even be in question. It's just how I feel about the whole situation we have been thrown in. If you feel a need to debate, I will not answer so please start a new thread that scopeguy45 is out of his mind!
Thanks to all of you for sharing and all the work you have done to try to figure Home Sharing out.
Just a suggestion.
Well said Larry. You've certainly captured my own opinion to the letter; so you're not alone.
Today I read that Microsoft will be releasing Office for iOS devices as a very scaled-down version of the usual package. So that means I won't be able to use a wireless keyboard and my iPad when on the move - I'll need a laptop to run a version of Word that suits my needs. But with all the hassles I've had with Apple TV, Home Sharing, Internet sharing and Mountain Lion recently, my immediate thoughts didn't run to a Macbook Pro. I'm too worried about Apple cocking something else up. Instead, I'm looking around the rest of the market and exploring other options a little more than I ordinarily would have.
Like you, I would previously have looked at an Apple device first, because it would easily fit within the ecosystem of my other Apple devices. But given the recent and many flaws in that system, I now feel that it would be no less trouble to introduce an Android or even (gulp) a Microsoft-based device.
I'd like to see Apple start to get things right again. But, as you implied, I haven't felt that pleasing customers has been their priority in quite some time. And that's the point where brand loyalty starts to waver.
And thanks for sharing the details of the app too - I'll be taking a look at that.
Today I read that Microsoft will be releasing Office for iOS devices as a very scaled-down version of the usual package. So that means I won't be able to use a wireless keyboard and my iPad when on the move
Why not? What are you doing now?
I'll need a laptop
Why? How do you know this new version of Office will not fit your needs?
In a few months when MS releases Office for iOS, you will be able to do less than you are now?
And this will force you to purchase more hardware?
At the moment I use an iMac. But increasingly, I'm needing to travel to see clients more and more. So I need to make best use of that time by doing some work. That is what forces me to purchase more hardware.
So using what appears will be a very basic version of Office will not suit my needs. I'm a copywriter, and I rely on many advanced functions in Word. And from the sounds of it a scaled-down version just won't cut it. So yes, in that scenario, I would be able to do less than I am now, using a full version of Word on an iMac.
Yes it does. In addition if you set it up in ServeToMe, it can recognize your photos, folders containing .avi, .mkv, etc. not just mp3, mp4, mp4a, etc...
It organizes the media a bit different than I was used to but I quickly adjusted. It has global settings for increasing or decreasing volume levels -2.5 o +2.5, changing bit rates, etc. make sure you visit their website regarding adjustments and troubleshooting. I'm not going back to home sharing as far as I can see, all being the same. If you decide to use, enjoy.
Works on both Mac and PC ... Super App in my opinion, not saying there are other Apps too, this was the one brought o my attention on ths thread. You may want to view some of the previous pages for more.
@tartinm - Yes, the StreamToMe app on your iDevice will recognize your various iTunes playlists if you make a settings change to the ServeToMe app on your computer. First, use Finder to open up your ServeToMe app on either your Mac or Windows computer. See this link for further instructions:
Basically, you want to check the Share iTunes Playlists box in the ServeToMe application settings. I had to Change Library XML to the the XML file in my iTunes folder, which in my case resides on an external hard drive because it's extremely large (more than 12,000 items and 2TB).
After you make the change to the ServeToMe settings, your playlists should show up in the StreamToMe app on your device. Good luck - hope this helps!
@scopeguy45 - And adding to your comment about files, StreamToMe is great for catching up on recorded TV shows from home if you're on the road. If you use an Elgato video tuner on your Mac along with EyeTV software, you can play a recorded show that's been saved to your EyeTV Archive folder. Because I keep so many TV shows, I need to save drive space. I usually don't leave them in the EyeTV Archive folder, but when I'm home will compress them into H.264 format and export to iTunes TV Shows, using Elgato's Turbo.264 HD hardware. That'll squeeze an hour-long 5.4GB into about 2GB at 720p, which still looks high def on an iPad. The hardware speeds up the job by taking a processing load off the CPU. Moreover, the EyeTV software allows you to edit out commercials so you can save quite a bit more file space. Some hour-long network shows have only 43 minutes of actual content.
Thank you JoviL. If I decide to stay with Apple next year I need to explore more and you've given me some great input. I will look ino Apple TV, too. Have not gone there yet.
We've certainly taken a wide swath from my original thread. Except for my musings and rants regarding Apple's management, its been an informative thread.
@scopeguy45 - For $99, you can't beat an Apple TV box. I can watch all those recorded TV shows that I told you about, which are saved to that external hard drive as H.264 compressed files in 720p/30fps. The resolution is plenty adequate for a 40-inch LCD TV screen.
And as to your recent comments, I second everything you say. What gripes me is that not only has Apple not fixed this Home Sharing problem with iOS 6, but they haven't yet publicly acknowledged that there's a problem. When they've had legitimate problems in the past, they've generally owned up to it. This episode is pretty disappointing. This thread is up to 174 posts now; it's six weeks old with no solution from Apple in sight.
I'm having the same issue as everyone else here, so I'll add my voice to the chorus. I'm using a newer (2010) iMac, a new Time Capsule, iPad3, 4th generation ipod touch, all updated witht he newest software and it STILL doesn't work. Home sharing to the mobile devices produce incomplete lists or doesn't sign it at all. I've restarted my computer, restarted the router (which, again, is an APPLE product), restarted my devices and no such luck.
Interesting, my Apple TV 3 (I have two of them) work just fine and can access my home library with no problems.
But for me to be having this many issues with a new, end-to-end Apple system is outrageous. I buy Apple so I don't have to deal with these issues.
Yep. Most of us bought Apple to avoid all the Windows-esque troubleshooting problems.
But sadly Apple doesn't read these forums (unless they want to delete something they don't like the look of). So best to report it through the official Apple channel. Not that this issue has been ongoing for a while or anything...
Hi Mr. N,
Unfortunately there is no official Apple channel to my knowledge that really works for us. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I re-contacted support since my case is still open and to her embarrassment she had no feedback yet from engineering; this was a few days ago. Again she could only offer me her hope that the delayed iTunes 11 would fix our problems. Not sure anyone reads these forums except us, probably use bots to scan for bad stuff or Apple staff that doesn't really have any more power than support. I believe these forums exist only to give an outlet for the frustrated. Apple doesn't care. According to her, they still have not acknowledged there is a problem. I have yet to see any published report that there is anything wrong from the online sources that I thought would be interested in reporting. So this problem may not exist for all users, only a small subset.
IMHO: Other than finding another App that works like StreamToMe, there is no answer yet. Apple is mum. For the future: Apple will remain a top tech firm, but will lose more loyalty to other tech firms as the lines between their products become more and more fuzzy and interchangeable. Brand loyalty will diminish, stock prices will continue to drop as more investors realize Apple has become just another tech firm and not the "Apple of its customers eye" ... See Microsoft, Cisco, etc.
As users, we can no longer rely on past performance, but must be prepared to beta test, switch, rant, and realize that customer service driven companies cannot exist in the global markets. They will spend much on litigations, advertising, paying online reporters to tout, and of course their highest level managers salaries. The "Steve Jobs" myth of perfection is after all just a myth and it is history. Apple got too big for it to act any other way than profit only driven. It would take a considerable crash and someone willing to pick up the pieces as before; I doubt this will occur.
Thought I'd just add my voice to the list. I had an iPad 2, on which Home Sharing worked perfectly. I hae an iPhone 4S, on which Home Sharing works perfectly. (I am running the most updated OSs for Mac and the iOS devices, and have fully updated iTunes.) Home Sharing does not work on my new iPad (4). I tried most everything listed here. Signed out of HS on all devices, shut them all down, power cycled the router, signed back in, etc. My symptom is a little different than most of yours -- I am going in through Music, not Videos, and my shared library name appears, but I get the spinning wheel and never get out of it. If I re-tap it, I get an error message: Unable to turn on Home Sharing. Duh.
In Videos, which I tried after reading this thread, I do get the slowly filling circle, without an error message. It just never fills.
Just tonight, I noticed within Airport Utility that my iPad's name was slightly different than its actual name (- 2 at the end). So, I renamed it, restarted everything, and hoped that would fix it, but it did not ... Am a little busy for a fruitless call to AppleCare at the moment, so will wait on the new iTunes to see if it gets fixed ...