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No iDVD so how do you save videos?

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hgdm2012 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Nov 8, 2012 4:51 AM

I recently purchased an iMac and then purchased iphoto and imovie from the app store only to find out that it doesn't include idvd.  So now how are we supposed to get idvd???  How are we supposed to make dvds of movies???  I tried using finder and copy/paste but the movie will not play in the dvd player.  HELP!!!!

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,395 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 5:17 AM (in response to hgdm2012)

    How are we supposed to make dvds of movies???

    Apple does not want you to.

     

    Why is there no iDVD on my new Mac?

     

    Apple insists that the entire world has access to fast broadband (and are prepared to pay for the considerable bandwidth usage) and wants to distribute home movies to friends and relatives via download (iCloud, YouTube, Facebook, whatever) rather than mailing them a DVD. The fact that in reality not all users do, has so far had no effect on this policy. If you scream and shout loudly enough down the phone Apple may send you a free copy of iDVD. Stating that they would return their brand new Mac unless they received a copy of iDVD worked for some, but that is now said to have been withdrawn by Apple.

     

    Also, you can complain bitterly via Apple’s Feedback link, perhaps suggesting that Apple could have provided a choice between burning DVDs and distributing home movies by other means. You may feel that Apple should not dictate how you destribute family videos or photos to distant relatives and friends, and should not assume that every user is prepared to pay for the excessive bandwidth usage charged by ISPs for huge downloads from the App Store:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/

     

    Whilst Macs with a Superdrive continue to be able to burn video DVDs, the software for so doing, iDVD, is no longer included in the iLife bundle that came with OS 10.7 Lion (which also omitted iWeb) or that comes with OS 10.8 Mountain Lion. And it is no longer included in the iLife 11 from the online Apple Store: http://www.apple.com/ilife/. Your only solution is to look on Amazon or eBay and try to get an older version that includes iDVD 7, i.e. iLife version 9 onwards. You should also do this if you plan to buy a new Mac anytime soon, as stocks of iLife that include iDVD will not be available for ever.

     

    However, the vastly more expensive FCPX can burn a DVD without iDVD or DVD Studio Pro involvement, but lack the themes etc of iDVD. Also, of course, there is Roxio Toast, which is the best software for burning anything but again does not offer the flexibility of iDVD.

     

    Apple has clearly indicated in the newest Mac mini and Retina Display MacBook Pro that it plans to get rid of optical disc drives as soon as possible across the board, providing an external USB drive as an option for users who need one.

     

    Users increasingly have fewer opportunities to use optical drives, as the bulk of third party software is now available as a digital download either directly from the vendor or through Apple's App Store. Apple also sees digital distribution as the future of music and movies, as exemplified in Apple TV, which has never included an optical drive.

     

    The company has never supported any new HD optical disc formats on its products, including Microsoft's ill fated HD-DVD or Sony's Blu-ray format, despite initially being involved in the Blu-ray standardization process. Instead, Apple has put its resources behind developing increasingly higher definition audio and video formats that it can distribute electronically through its own iTunes Store.

     

    And if you think Microsoft are any better, their new Windows 8 operating system will not play DVDs, or burn them, unless customers buy an extra upgrade, the company has announced:  http://www.gizmag.com/windows-8-no-dvd-playback/22443/

     

    In other words, computer manufacturers have declared optical media as dead, long before consumers are ready to stop using them, which is fine as long as they offered us a choice, but they won’t even do that. Flexibility and intuitive use of a computer seems to be a thing of the past.

     

    Link:

     

    Why is there no iDVD on my new Mac?

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3673

     

    UPDATE & ADDENDUM:

     

    But even though you can still buy iLife 11 that includes iDVD 7 from Amazon, Apple now make it difficult to install:

     

    Poster jhb21939 posted this in another thread:

    “when I attempted to load iDVD into a new iMac. A notice came up on the screen stating that the 'Authorisation Licence' had expired on 25 March this year (2012).

    I contacted the Apple support team and eventually, I was told that the Licence had been withdrawn and could no longer be used.”

     

    In other words Apple are now so adamant that we don’t use iDVD that they have tried to make it impossible to install.

     

    In response, Old Toad posted this solution:

     

    “You can still use it one all of your Macs.  If you get an invalid certificate message just set your Mac's clock to sometime before early 2011 and run the installer.  After you're done reset the time back to the correct time.” He added this comment:

    “It began after iDVD and iWeb were discontued and they were dropped from the Apple Store. All I can think of is the certificate was set to expire after a certain time period after the intitial iLife disc was released.

    I've been able to use the installer even without setting back the date.  I just clicked on the Continue button and it would work as expected.  For some it would not continue unless the date was set back.”

     

    The latest anorexic iMacs just announced do not even include a CD drive! Proof positive that Apple virtually prohibit the use of DVDs - although the newly announced Mac Minis do include a Superdrive.

     

    Yet, they still include iMovie! Heaven alone knows or understands what you are supposed to do with your newly edited masterpiece - except make a low quality version for YouTube?

  • Bengt Wärleby Level 6 Level 6 (18,920 points)
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    Nov 8, 2012 6:55 AM (in response to hgdm2012)

    Hi

    If there is no iDVD on Your Mac (and it's not on newer Macs as Apple discarded it) then You need a program that can do this.

    Your Mac can burn CDs and DVDs - BUT DVD as Data-DVDs not as Video-DVDs - they need a program to be encoded and STRUCTURED as such.

    • iDVD is part of the boxed version of iLife'11 and can only be bought outside Apple as on Amazon and e-bay

    • DVD Studio pro - Part of FinalCut Studio Pro bundle - this to has expired and can only be bought second handed. (High price and tough learning Curve - but best ever done.)

    • Roxio Toast™ - Not as elegant as iDVD - but has many other positive additions (I like it as 10-Pro incl BD-component) (now version 11)

    • Burn - only free alternative I know of on internet. Very simple - Just for doing a plain Video-DVD

    Burn http://www.digital-digest.com/software/Burn.html

    only You can buy from Apple is

    • FinalCut Pro-X which also can burn to DVD but without any nice themes.

     

    AppleMan1958

    You can also buy Compressor from Apple for $50 US. It will also create DVD and BluRay but without the nice themes.

     

    Yours Bengt W

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