Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 3:05 AM (in response to WynP)
A really *GOOD* solution is to switch to Firefox - it works!
Currently Being ModeratedSep 23, 2012 7:04 AM (in response to WynP)
Interesting, I've tried that as well and from what I've seen on this and other forums, it doesn't work for a lot of people. I've tried Firefox and chrome. Neither work which leads me to believe it is more of an issue with keychain. My problem is that it isn't consistent.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 8, 2012 1:03 AM (in response to °Bernz°)
Not an actual solution, but a way to save passwords nonetheless.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 8, 2012 9:20 AM (in response to Skypod_x)
This certainly works for saving passwords, but it doesn't cause them to be pre-filled onto the webpage when you pul it up. Do you know of a way I can get these passwords to fill themselves into the blanks when I first pull up the website?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:05 AM (in response to BlackEyedAngel)
I have the same problem (Safari 6.0).
What is even more troubling is that:
1. Company support with software glitches like this, which are experienced by many Apple computer users, is non-existent
2. Apple Discussions- which is supposed to replace direct contact between customer and Apple- is also no longer working satisfactorily
My loyalty to the brand is not unconditional. If the company does not respond, it will feel the consequences in the pocket book, and my changing buying prefences, sooner or later.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:23 AM (in response to PeterPaller)
I'm fully agree!
And it's a shame that no one by Apple has responded to this issue.
Incomprehensible, but it shows the lack of interest to us customers.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:25 AM (in response to Gloedu)
This isn't a bug guys. The browser is actually honoring the settings of certain websites that ask browsers *not* to remember passwords. It's a security addition, not a bug. You can use a service like 1Password if you need to save them all regardless of the website.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:27 AM (in response to PeterPaller)
I agree that Apple should definitely be addressing this issue for us, but don't delude yourself into thinking that your business (or the lack thereof) could possibly have even the tiniest impact on Apple's decisions as a company. It will feel absolutely no "consequences" in their "pocket book". That's crazy-talk...
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:31 AM (in response to roccit)
Then why, pray tell, did all these websites happily remember our usernames and passwords before Mountain Lion? Are you claiming that upon the release of Moutain Lion, thousands of separate websites magically and simultaneously started implementing this policy of "Don't save the passwords."? It appears that you don't actually understand the issue we're having. Our usernames and passwords used to be pre-filled perfectly every single time before the new version of Safari that came out with Mountain Lion...
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:40 AM (in response to BlackEyedAngel)
The fields were never filled out for my stock trading page, but Paypal, Fedex, UPS used to load them and even Authorize.net. Now those don't load, but sites like this one do. I think roccit is correct.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:43 AM (in response to DrBukk)
How could you possibly extrapolate that roccit is correct based on what you just wrote??? You basically just supported my and everyone else's position that it's a bug.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to BlackEyedAngel)
What I'm saying is that Safari was filling these fields in automatically for sites that are financial risks, and anybody using my computer could go into Paypal, for instance, and send money. Somehow TD Ameritrade ALWAYS had me fill out both username and password, but they were the only financial site which required it. Personally I'm more comfortable that Paypal and Authorize are requiring filling the stuff out every time. Amazon still fills in the fields, though, and that is a security risk.
I'm guessing here, but those websites with financial risks probably had required manual entry with Explorer but not Safari, and that is no longer the case because they forced Apple to comply with the Mountain Lion upgrade. I definitely agree it is a big hassle and get buffaloed all the time at my home computer for not having my Rolodex.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 11:03 AM (in response to DrBukk)
And why would Apple decide that financial risk outweighs other types of personal risk, like what Facebook presents?? And how would they know whether or not a site is a "financial" site, unless they spent boatloads of time and effort to catalog every single website out there. Your explanation is far too complicated and convoluted. Ever heard of Occam's Razor?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 13, 2012 11:27 AM (in response to °Bernz°)
Back to the original issue:
What if I could access and modify the wording in the library place, where the current passwords are stored on my computer? In my case, all of my passwords are still listed in the "Password" sub-menu of Safari Preferences, and they autofill, except for one password which I had manually removed from the Safari list of saved passwords, and since then have been unable to figure out a way to restore it (no prompt for 'restore' in Safari's "Password" sub-menu.)
Can anyone point me to where the passwords are stored, and whether I can manually script a password back into the list?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 5:14 PM (in response to °Bernz°)
I've asked the original question because I clearly saw a regression (or increased security - depending on your point of view) in the way Safari 6 determined WHEN to store passwords. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with this frustrating issue!
Being a web developer, I've done tons of authentication portals, and I've never used any sort of "deny saving passwords" feature. (I'm not saying they don't exist, I've seen Microsoft use a few...) Then, suddenly, when Safari 6 comes out, many of MY websites (stored on multiple / different servers, so that I'm pretty sure it's not a server configuration issue) don't save passwords anymore.
I really don't mind that Safari refuses to store them or not, as long as Apple publishes rules to developers on when they will be stored - or not. For example, I've seen examples that, when using Dreamweaver's Spry library on login forms, passwords are not stored. However, there is no clear behaviour that I've been able to pinpoint.
As a sidenote: Firefox easily stores username / passwords on Apple's own Wiki servers (10.7 and 10.8) authentication forms, while Safari, on its own Wiki, won't even prompt you to save it... It does feel that someone dropped the ball somewhere.
I like Safari, and I want to continue using it. Firefox is good too, but also MUCH better in determining when to offer to store passwords. I'd like Safari to be as flexible as Firefox for that. And if not, Apple's feedback on the behavious would be greatly appreciated.