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connect2europe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

I installed Windows 7 in Boot Camp under Mountain Lion, then upgraded to Windows 8 Pro from within Windows on the Boot Camp partition. Initially I had tried to do a clean install of Windows 8 but received an error message that the version of Windows 8 I had was not designed for a clean install. In any case, Windows 8 worked fine - until I shut it off and tried to restart. After disabling sleep or any type of shutdown in OS X 8.2, I tried starting Windows 8 once more and was able to do so. However, after an normal restart following downloading updates, I get only a blue screen when attempting to start Windows 8. Additionally, Windows 8 will not start from a Windows 8 Install disk (which Boot Camp can recognize and use as the start disk). Have others had this problem? What have you done?


iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)
  • 1. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    BobTheFisherman Level 6 Level 6 (10,970 points)
  • 2. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    michaelsip4 Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)

    veing a boot camp kindof person,

     

    when I initially installed win7 on a macdrive partitioned - i had to use bootcamp assistant to down load the approp drivers etc.  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1461  and  http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/boot_camp_install-setup_10.7.pdf   

     

    after the install of win7 i would shut the computer off and when I wanted to go into the "start up manager" i would hold the alt/option key until i saw my different start up options.

     

    ----------------- is this the process you used prior to win8 ?

     

    I also did a search on installing windows 8 boot camp on google and found some videos and feedback.

     

    * its as if a step was missing (update)

  • 3. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    connect2europe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Interestingly, Windows 8 worked beautifully until restart. I did all of the correct steps to install WIndows 7 and then upgraded from within WIndows 7 (during which Windows created a new Windows 8 partition and a Windows.old folder). One possible red herring - both my keyboard and mouse are wireless Microsoft products. I do wonder if Boot Camp or Windows 8 does not install the drivers soon enough so Windows 8 is not getting any outside input and is waiting for that. Do I need a wired (USB) mouse/keyboard?

     

    Also, I've checked all the forums. The latest Boot Camp I can find referred to anywhere in the Apple ecosystem is 4.0. My actual running version is 5.0 but there is no information available about it. I assume that it is designed to run Windows 8, however, I've not discovered any way to find out.

     

    thanks for your suggestions - I started in Bootcamp Forum. (https://discussions.apple.com/community/windows_software/boot_camp) and looked at it again. There seems nothing there that addresses these issues.

  • 4. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    Windows 8 is NOT yet supported by Apple's BootCamp, you jumped the shark.

     

    If you would have asked here I or others would have told you it's not ready yet.

  • 5. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    connect2europe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Well if that is the case, why are there multiple posts and videos about how to install Windows 8 on a Mac - where, as I said, it did in fact work very well until a restart was necessary (because of normal updates)?

     

    I might note that this is my first time trying to negotiate the Mac forums and it is not self-evident where to go and with whom to converse.

     

    So when will Boot Camp be ready for Windows 8? Ans why is it not ready now when both Parallels and Fusion are ready?

  • 6. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,305 points)

    connect2europe wrote:

     

    Well if that is the case, why are there multiple posts and videos about how to install Windows 8 on a Mac

     

     

    In virtual machine software yes, but not into BootCamp.

     

    Some have done like yourself and upgraded Win 8 over Win 7, but the results are unpredictable at best.

     

    connect2europe wrote:

    And why is it not ready now when both Parallels and Fusion are ready?

     

     

    Those are virtual machine softwares and it's rather easy to make one patch for Windows 8 to work with one vm software, when on Mac's Apple has to test compatible hardware drivers for every Mac.

     

     

     

    So when will Boot Camp be ready for Windows 8?

     

    Whenever Apple gets around to doing it.

     

    Windows 8 on a Mac doesn't help Apple any, my guess is in several months from now once it's stabilized..

  • 7. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    BobTheFisherman Level 6 Level 6 (10,970 points)

    connect2europe wrote:

     

    Well if that is the case, why are there multiple posts and videos about how to install Windows 8 on a Mac - where, as I said, it did in fact work very well until a restart was necessary (because of normal updates)?

     

    I might note that this is my first time trying to negotiate the Mac forums and it is not self-evident where to go and with whom to converse.

     

    So when will Boot Camp be ready for Windows 8? Ans why is it not ready now when both Parallels and Fusion are ready?

    There are videos etc. because people are impatient and want to do as you did, prematurely install Windows 8 using Bootcamp before there are any hardware drivers for Windows 8 in Bootcamp.

     

    I provided the link to where you should go to discuss Bootcamp issues. The link points to the Bootcamp forum. You'll find hundreds of discussions, just like yours, where people are asking why their Windows 8 does not work correctly.

     

    The Bootcamp Windows 8 drivers will be available whenever they are written and released. We users have no insight into when that will be.

  • 8. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    connect2europe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    OK. Thanks all. I just re-partitioned the drive with Boot Camp Assistant and installed Windows 7 - which is working fine. I'll deal with the ramifications of installing WIndows 8 whenever the drivers appear.

  • 9. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    michaelsip4 Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)

    Connect2Eu

     

    when i did a search on google as I mentioned, I found serveral installs regarding win8 as you may have noticed and people seemed to have successfully installed it...the one thing i seem to have noticed they may have all been clean installs (dont remember that for a fact - you may want to double check).

     

    there also seemed to be some tweaks,  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4211110?start=0&tstart=0

    based on the dates i noted, there we some pre-release dates of the live version on win8.

     

    if you ML is relatively a recent purchase - you may want to fill out a express lane ticket with apple regarding boot camp issues and raise the question for a definitive answer to the issue you are encountering.

  • 10. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    BobTheFisherman Level 6 Level 6 (10,970 points)

    michaelsip4 wrote:

     

    Connect2Eu

     

    when i did a search on google as I mentioned, I found serveral installs regarding win8 as you may have noticed and people seemed to have successfully installed it...the one thing i seem to have noticed they may have all been clean installs (dont remember that for a fact - you may want to double check).

     

    there also seemed to be some tweaks,  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4211110?start=0&tstart=0

    based on the dates i noted, there we some pre-release dates of the live version on win8.

     

    if you ML is relatively a recent purchase - you may want to fill out a express lane ticket with apple regarding boot camp issues and raise the question for a definitive answer to the issue you are encountering.

    An express lane ticket will do no good. Windows 8 is not supported. What would you expect an express lane ticket to accomplish. There is nothing that Apple support will/can do until Windows 8 is officially supported and the Windows 8 drivers have been released.

  • 11. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    michaelsip4 Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)

    the mindset was a little more along the lines of solid confirmation for C2EU regarding W8. Since none of us work for apple, I would hate to see (us) the community be unaware of something that apple support may be aware of.

     

    best intentions were meant,  I am certain that both of us have run into issues where the forum (due to lack of knowledge say something is wrong or there is a problem) when in ttruth there is noon and vice versa

  • 12. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    connect2europe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Hi All, thanks for interacting. However, I think the solution may be different than any of us suspected. After installing Windows 7 - and having it work well - I let Windows sleep and found to my consternation that I had the same black bios screen when attempting to reboot it. So I checked the forums to see if anyone else had that problem. Lo and behold, I found a post that said Windows 7 wouldn't reboot when he had an HD attached. I took that as a clue. Here's what I wrote to him:

     

    "Interestingly enough, I had problems with Windows 7 (as well as Windows 8) restarting with some external HDs attached - three different ones, actually. After reading your note, I wondered if the issue with the failure of Windows 7 to restart might have to do with the fact that the HDs were attached. I ejected them in OS X and then tried a reboot - Voila! There was Windows 7, all happy again.

     

    With respect to checking to see if the HDs are boot options, OS X (I'm using 8.2) does that prior to an OS coming up. If you hold down the Alt key while Boot Camp is restarting the Windows and Mac disks come up along with the Mac Recovery partition - not the external HDs (unless, I suppose, you had an OS on them). So Boot Camp already seems to know that they're not bootable. The problem might be that Windows is trying unsuccessfully to wrest control of those HDs from the Mac OS. What about it all you techs out there? Any ideas?"   ....

     

    Now I'm tempted to re-install Windows 8 and determine whether that was the basis of the non-boot problem I experienced under 8 - rather than there being no drivers from Apple yet. However, I have a few pieces of Windows software that are not compatible with version 8, so I'm going to leave well enough alone for now. Anyone else care to try it?

  • 13. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    ShlomiL Level 3 Level 3 (675 points)

    Hi,

    I would suggest waiting with Windows 8 a bit, it clearly not yet supported as you may find stated by Boot Camp's doumentation:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4818#3.1

     

    Shlomi

  • 14. Re: Windows 8 does not restart in Boot Camp
    connect2europe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    The URL indicated does say that - but it refers to Boot Camp 4.0. The current version of Boot Camp is 5.0. I'm still going to wait, however - I've wasted enough time already trying to get it to work.

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