5 Replies Latest reply: Nov 14, 2012 5:48 AM by Larry West
Larry West Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

I'm considering a new Mac to replace my late 2006 MBP. Initially, I was debating with myself whether I should buy a new MacBook Pro, a Retina MBP, or wait for the new 27" iMac coming in December.

 

More recently, however, I've seen the 2012 Mac Minis, and they are benchmarking very similar numbers to the Retina MBP with the same processor.

 

But the big difference I see, is that the Mini only has the integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000, while all the other options have the integrated graphics, plus various flavors of nVidia GeForce grahics.

 

So, my question is, will Aperture be noticeably faster having (and using) the discrete grahics instead of having solely the integrated graphics?

 

I like to get the best performance for my money, but if the performance difference is only slight byt the dollar difference is large...


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.4), Late 2006 Core 2 Duo, 3 GB RAM
  • 1. Re: Is Aperture faster using discrete graphics?
    SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,695 points)

    In the past Aperture has been higly dependent of strong graphics support. E.g. the very strongest G5 tower failed on Aperture unless a top GPU card was retrofitted.

     

    I suggest looking to graphics tests at

    http://barefeats.com/

    for a general idea of how different setups perform with demanding graphics.

     

    HTH

     

    -Allen

  • 2. Re: Is Aperture faster using discrete graphics?
    SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,695 points)

    ...more (The forum as is common just trashed a few paragraphs of writing that I decline to rewrite).

     

    In summary, graphics are limiting to graphics processing so IMO we should buy strong discrete graphics boxes for heavy graphics apps because the OS, apps and camera file sizes are getting more demanding not less demanding of graphics support.

     

    Personally I consider mobility essential and Aperture still fails to synch a laptop/desktop workflow, so I got rid of my MP/MBP setup for a strongest-graphics MBP.

     

    CPU-only test results are at

    http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

    but note that all 2012 cpus are strong. The Geekbench results linked do not measure application performance; graphics and RAM are what tend to be most limiting, not cpu.

     

    From the BareFeats site previously linked to:

    "BOTTOM LINE
    The 'late 2012' Mac mini Quad-Core i7 is strong on CPU crunching but weak on graphics intensive tasks."

     

    HTH

     

    -Allen

  • 3. Re: Is Aperture faster using discrete graphics?
    Larry West Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Yeah, that's the conclusion I was coming to. But then, there are graphics and there are graphics! Apple puts a wide variety of NVidia GeForce GT chips in different machines, from the 640M with 512MB in the bare-bones iMac 21.5" to the 680MX with 2GB in the 27" iMac (CTO)...

     

    Since I don't game, and I don't edit video, the most graphic-intensive app I have is Aperture.

     

    I guess I'm leaning toward the 15" Retina MBP. I'd thought that I could get by with an iMac (or Mini), keeping my olde MBP for the few times I need to travel with a laptop, but with it limited to Lion, I'm wondering how many more Aperture product cycles it has left before it gets left behind, as the OS already has done.

     

    (Then I'll be waiting for the Thunderbolt Display II, with USB3 and 5mm thin edges... ;-)

  • 4. Re: Is Aperture faster using discrete graphics?
    SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,695 points)

    A modern MBP with best-available-at-the-time MBP graphics and an SSD makes a great desktop replacement (DTR) box for Aperture. Mine is a 2011 17" MBP and Aperture rocks. Yours will have better graphics, but mine has the optical drive slot in which to add a HDD. Just be sure to get the SSD as your boot drive; HDDs for boot are defunct technology.

     

    The other thing to do is get 16 GB RAM in your MBP one way or another. My MBP with 8 GB RAM pages out with an Aperture/Photoshop workflow. However the SSD does greatly ameliorate the negative impact of page outs.

     

    Check with OWC:

    http://eshop.macsales.com/

    but I believe that rMBPs do not allow third-party RAM.

     

    HTH

     

    -Allen

  • 5. Re: Is Aperture faster using discrete graphics?
    Larry West Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    That's correct. For the Retina MBPs, you have to order the 16GB up front. It's not that costly, more than OWC, but it is the only way to add it in.