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Any word on a fix for the Maps App?

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James C Hoffman Calculating status...
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Nov 12, 2012 6:51 PM

Haven't wanted to update to new iOS because of maps... new update says nothing about fix for maps... have any of the initial Map App issues been resolved?

 

James

iPhone 3GS, iOS 5.1.1
  • sdc01 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 12, 2012 8:35 PM (in response to James C Hoffman)

    Hello James,

     

    It will be nearly impossible for Apple to 'fix' this problem. They will always be 10 years behind Google, they don't have nearly the expertise nor the dedication of Google.

     

    Something else that no one has pointed out, Apple doesn't have even 1/5 the market share that Google has for their mapping software. Think about this... Apple maps only works on Apple devices, whereas, Google Maps/Earth works on all devices, including desktop computers. Therefore, the amount of data that Google is gathering is hugely greater than the trickle that Apple is gathering.

     

    The only possible 'fix' is for Apple to admit defeat, that they can't be great at everything (the original core value of Apple) and give us back Google Maps as the default mapping tool.

     

    Apple stocks are dropping every day and I suspect it is going to get worse.

     

    For myself, I delayed my planned upgrade from the iPhone 4 to 5 and Apple has until January 2013 to make things right. Furthermore, my company's phone contract expires in February 2013 and a few months ago, I had considered upgrading all 34 phones from Blackberrys to iPhone 5. Now I am seriously considering Android phones because Google Maps integrates with our Google Apps. Apple's maps solution is completely unacceptable regardless of how inept the mapping is; which it is!

  • ckuan Level 6 Level 6 (19,790 points)
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    Nov 12, 2012 8:43 PM (in response to sdc01)

    So you can tell the future and prefer google to harvest your info. Good for you. You can still use your browser if you're so inclined. Anyway what you're saying is nonsense. Maps on my iPhone is doing a good job.

  • sdc01 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 12, 2012 9:19 PM (in response to ckuan)

    ckuan wrote:

     

    So you can tell the future and prefer google to harvest your info. Good for you. You can still use your browser if you're so inclined. Anyway what you're saying is nonsense. Maps on my iPhone is doing a good job.


    Are you suggesting that Google is worse than Apple harvesting your data? And because maps works for you, that equates to it is good for everyone (a majority)? Stellar logic!

     

    Using the browser is not even close to equivalent! To suggest that, means you know nothing about the problems. Why are you even bothering to participate in this conversation?

     

    "Nonsense" is your opinion and it isn't very relevant. But thanks for playing.

  • ckuan Level 6 Level 6 (19,790 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 1:32 AM (in response to sdc01)

    sdc01 wrote:

    Are you suggesting that Google is worse than Apple harvesting your data? And because maps works for you, that equates to it is good for everyone (a majority)? Stellar logic!

     

    Using the browser is not even close to equivalent! To suggest that, means you know nothing about the problems. Why are you even bothering to participate in this conversation?

     

    "Nonsense" is your opinion and it isn't very relevant. But thanks for playing.

    Yes, i 'm Apple customer and so they know what I like to buy. Great, I buy more if they produce good products that I like.

    The big difference is you are not google customer, you are google asset, the advertiser are their customer. Do I have to tell you more how google do their business? Wake up, all these freebies are there for a reason.

    I prefer Apple Maps anytime and it is getting better as we speak.

  • William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,395 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 1:57 AM (in response to sdc01)

    The thing is, Google Maps would never integrate with iOS apps the way it does with Google's apps no matter what Apple does or doesn't do, because Google provides Google Maps and Google Apps and they don't want the integration to be that tight on anything but Android, a Google Product.

  • sdc01 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 2:04 AM (in response to ckuan)

    ckuan wrote:

     

    Yes, i 'm Apple customer and so they know what I like to buy. Great, I buy more if they produce good products that I like.

    The big difference is you are not google customer, you are google asset, the advertiser are their customer. Do I have to tell you more how google do their business? Wake up, all these freebies are there for a reason.

    I prefer Apple Maps anytime and it is getting better as we speak.


    Oh my, there is little more silly than someone who accuses another of being naive and in doing so, reveal there own naivety.

     

    You didn't know that Apple gathers as much usage data as Google? Really? How do you think they plan to make their maps better? Why do you think they want their own mapping app?

     

    Mapping is huge business and Apple wants some of that action for themselves. That AND Jobs stating that he wanted to go thermo-nuclear on Google are the primary reasons why Google Maps was replaced by Apple Maps.

     

    Of course Google Maps has a business model, of course they collect data on our usage. Who cares? For an amazing line of products that work 99% of the time for the entire world, it is a small price to pay. Besides, for the ultra paranoid, there are many ways to hide your true identity from Google. No so with the Apple phone and Apple apps!


    Perhaps I should remind you of this:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-03/apple-must-face-lawsuit-over-iphone-dat a-collection-claims-1-.html

     

    My primary point is that I am getting tired of Apple dictating what apps I can and cannot have! I am getting tired of Apple denying entry into the iTunes store, 3rd party apps that compete with their own. Even Google is stating that Apple may not allow Google Maps into the iDevice apps ecosystem.

     

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/11/google-not-optimistic-apple-will-approve-it s-upcoming-ios-maps-app/?comments=1#comments-bar

     

    Make no mistake, it is Apple that is the villain in this situation.

     

    And this is no laughing matter for several reasons:

    1) Apple stocks have been on a steady decline since the announcement of the iPhone 5

    2) The FTC may investigate Apple's business practices once again because of the maps issue

    3) People ARE decided NOT to buy into Apple because of these problems

     

    Those in this forum that are quick to say, "get lost, go buy an Android" are not helping Apple. If you think that Apple can't die, you are really naive! Apple can become irrelevant quicker than you think.

  • sdc01 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 2:10 AM (in response to William Kucharski)

    William Kucharski wrote:

     

    The thing is, Google Maps would never integrate with iOS apps the way it does with Google's apps no matter what Apple does or doesn't do, because Google provides Google Maps and Google Apps and they don't want the integration to be that tight on anything but Android, a Google Product.

     

    And that is because of another really annoying problem with iOS. That is, the inability to set default apps! One of my top 5 problems with iOS.

     

    For instance, Apple's inept Safari! It is a piece of crap browser. I downloaded both Opera mini and Chrome; both are vastly superior browsers but Apple won't allow me to define either of them as a default browser so any time I invoke browser activity through another app, the Safari browser is the one I am forced to use.

     

    Yes, I understand that Google maps will no longer be integrated. But that is entirely a flaw in Apple's philosophy that Apple apps are always the default app - no matter what!

  • ckuan Level 6 Level 6 (19,790 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 2:56 AM (in response to sdc01)

    Man, every post you wrote in your history is something bad apple has done. Why don't you sell it and be happy somewhere. Life is too short for whinning.

     

    Of course Google Maps has a business model, of course they collect data on our usage. Who cares? For an amazing line of products that work 99% of the time for the entire world, it is a small price to pay. Besides, for the ultra paranoid, there are many ways to hide your true identity from Google. No so with the Apple phone and Apple apps!

     

    A small price to pay having your privacy taken. No thanks, you go ahead.

    Amazing line of product? Since when?  You must be joking. I prefer to pay for what I use.

    Search is the only thing they know and they are scewing it. Everything else is stolen.

    Anyway, do what's good for you. End of Line.

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