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Back to my Mom's mac

1055 Views 14 Replies Latest reply: Nov 13, 2012 2:24 PM by Nicholas Sayer RSS
Nicholas Sayer Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)
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Nov 10, 2011 8:40 AM

BTMM is fine, but what is missing from it is the ability to use BTMM from someone else's mac. Even back in the MobileMe days, this was impractical, as it meant signing out of MobileMe, which screwed up all of the sync settings and so on. The same applies to iCloud. Signing out of iCloud requires deleting all of your calendar and contacts and the like. It's just a pain in the neck just to be able to bring up someone else's machine if they need help.

 

You ought to be able to launch screen sharing and then sign in with "foreign" iCloud credentials and then open a screen sharing session.

 

Absent this feature, BTMM is worthless unless you own two macs.

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7)
  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    Nov 10, 2011 8:56 AM (in response to Nicholas Sayer)

    That's why it is called "Back to MY Mac" - not "Back to ANY Mac"

     

    You can use iChat to share someone else's screen.

    iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    Nov 10, 2011 11:11 AM (in response to Nicholas Sayer)

    I gave you a solution - what else do you want?

  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
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    Nov 10, 2011 1:12 PM (in response to Nicholas Sayer)

    Your first post didn't mention that you wanted to do this when your Mom is not in front of her Mac? You said you wanted "to bring up someone else's machine if they need help" - which would suggest she wanted help while using her computer and you're not physically with her to help in person.

     

    Apple's full-featured remote desktop software is here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC171Z/A

     

    That will do all you want, without the limitations of BTMM or iChat.

  • openthreads Calculating status...
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    Mar 11, 2012 7:11 AM (in response to Julian Wright)

    Julian, I think you're incorrect.    Apple's "full-featured" remote desktop software that you link too will only allow screen-sharing capabilities with machines on "your network" .  I don't believe it allows for screen sharing with computers on remote networks.

  • Tom Cassel Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Apr 27, 2012 12:38 PM (in response to Julian Wright)

    I found this thread in my search to find a way to access a computer using BTTM instead of iChat, LogMeIn, etc. Why would I want to do this, when I have the "full-featured" remote desktop software installed and running on my machine right now?

     

    BTTM provides a way to remotely wake a Mac that is on a different subnet (or behind a NATted Airport). It does this by communicating with/through the Airport itself where all other solutions cannot.

     

    Right now I have a client with BTTM running but their machine is asleep. ARD & LogMeIn don't have the ability to talk to the Airport to pass the WOL packet to wake the machine.

     

    Without a better solution available, I'll suggest that Nicholas creates another user account on his machine, set up fast user switching, then apply your Mom's credentials in that account's iCloud settings.

     

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  • Martin Joseph Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 9:50 AM (in response to Nicholas Sayer)

    See what Tom Cassel says above? 

     

    That is my answer also. 

     

    No, it's not ideal,  but hey, it's a third party opportunity.  You could write a "back to mom's mac" app that lets you go back to other peoples' macs assuming you have their icloud credentials...

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 10:50 AM (in response to openthreads)

    openthreads wrote:

     

    Julian, I think you're incorrect.    Apple's "full-featured" remote desktop software that you link too will only allow screen-sharing capabilities with machines on "your network" .  I don't believe it allows for screen sharing with computers on remote networks.

    It does allow connecting to remote networks.

     

    Using the correct connection method you can connect to any Mac on any network in the world using ARD

  • Tom Cassel Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 12:14 PM (in response to Csound1)

    ARD is an IP based connection utility. Unless I am missing a big piece of functionality of ARD (which I use every day) you can only connect to a remote Mac on "any network in the world" provided it has it's own static IP address (or dynamic DNS service for a single IP). For example, if my parents have three computers I can only set ARD up to connect to one of them behind their single dynamic IP address.

    Back to my Mac, on the other hand, is an Apple ID based connection utility so I should be able to connect to each of them even though they sit behind one IP address.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 12:44 PM (in response to Tom Cassel)

    Tom Cassel wrote:

     

    ARD is an IP based connection utility. Unless I am missing a big piece of functionality of ARD (which I use every day) you can only connect to a remote Mac on "any network in the world" provided it has it's own static IP address (or dynamic DNS service for a single IP). For example, if my parents have three computers I can only set ARD up to connect to one of them behind their single dynamic IP address.

    Back to my Mac, on the other hand, is an Apple ID based connection utility so I should be able to connect to each of them even though they sit behind one IP address.

    You would use a VPN obviously, unless this is just a home hobby.

  • Tom Cassel Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 12:51 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Thus, bringing us full circle to the original issue... ARD isn't an appropriate utility for 'home' usage due to technical requirements (VPN) and BTTM is onerous as it requires repeated manual reconfiguration of iCloud credentials for multiple machines/locations.

     

    It appears we are in agreement that neither tool is ideal in this common usage case.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,320 points)
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    Nov 13, 2012 12:55 PM (in response to Tom Cassel)

    I deploy a VPN whenever I need to, from home as well as office, train, car etc. ARD with VPN is appropriate if you want a secure remote connection, but it is a little more complex.

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