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  • 15. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Niel,

     

    I really appreciate your help, but as you can tell, I'm feeling my way here, so I think I'll drop my computer into the Mac store & get them to do a fresh install. I have all the files backed up on a portable HD, so I can restore all that quite easily.

     

    I only have a couple of apps that I can download quickly & I'll be up & running again.

     

    My computer is for a dedicated music playback system, so I only have Amarra & all my music files to put back on to it.

     

    Thanks again,

    John

  • 16. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,885 points)

    No need to go to the store.

    Just download -> Recovery Disk Assistant and install on an external drive.

    Hold Option and reboot then select the Recovery drive to boot from.

    Then simply install Mountain Lion.

  • 17. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This sounds like a great solution.....but I'm a bit confused.

     

    The link you sent me to says..."The Recovery Disk Assistant lets you create Recovery on an external drive that has all of the same capabilities as the built-in Recovery:"

     

    Is my computer supposed to have a built in recovery sustem?

  • 18. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ah, I think I've answered my own question. I tried starting up with "options" held down & yes, the recovery assistant started up, so it's obviously a hidden type of program that you only see when you need to use it. This is a great solution & should do the job very easily.

    Thanks heaps.

  • 19. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    keg55 Level 5 Level 5 (5,925 points)

    Ok.. don't get confused here. Your Lion system has a partition on it called Recovery HD. You can boot into it the way you just did or by pressing Command+R at startup. The Recovery HD is hidden.

     

    The OS X Recovery Disk Assistant is an application that you download from Apple and run which will copy that Recovery HD onto a bootable USB thumb drive (formated as Mac OS Extended Journaled with the GUID partition table) so that in case your hard drive's Recovery HD becomes corrupt or disappears, you have the thumb drive you can use to boot from and use the OS X Utilities.

     

    Hope this helps.

  • 20. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, I think I understand.

     

    Thanks again.

  • 21. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A quick question If I may.

     

    Does this procedure install a clean install of Lion or does it clone what I had on my computer previously?

  • 22. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,885 points)

    Recovery Disk Assistant installs a small version of the OS in the Recovery Drive so you can use it.

    Once you boot from the Recovery Drive, you can do several things.

    One option is to run Disk Utilities.

    Another is Restore the entire drive (including OS) from your Time Machine backup.

  • 23. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Chris,

     

    What I'm trying to achieve here is when I put the new hard drive in, I want to install a fresh copy of Lion on my computer. This seems to be such a difficult thing to do, as no discs are provided from Apple.

    I'm used to just inserting the Windows disc on my PC....letting it do it's thing & then it's all finished & I have a new fresh install to start with & then I just transfer all my files over from my back up.

     

    I had a look at "Utilities" & it seems that I can only copy an image of my current OS??

     

    ....and if I use Time Machine i will once again get a copy of my original OS??

     

    There must be a way to have a fresh install of the OS without jumping through all these hoops. If not, Apple have surely messed this one up.

     

    I think I'll be going to the Mac store & asking them to do this.

  • 24. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (74,885 points)

    when I put the new hard drive in, I want to install a fresh copy of Lion on my computer. This seems to be such a difficult thing to do, as no discs are provided from Apple.

     

    You need something to boot from.

    As I noted before, just download -> Recovery Disk Assistant and install it on an external drive.

    Replace the original internal drive.

    Hold Option and start teh computer then select the Recovery drive to boot from.

    Then simply install Mountain Lion.

     

    When booting from the Recovery drive, you have 4 options.

    1. Restore from a TM backup.
    2. Install new copy of Mac OS X
    3. Get Help
    4. Disk Utility
  • 25. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I think I understand the process.

     

    My preference would be No. 2 of your solution, but the difficulty I have is where to obtain a new copy of Mac OS X.

    The Apple store doesn't sel Lion. So do I need to get Mountain Lion?

     

    If that is the way to go, when I download this new OS, can I copy that to a DVD so that I will have it in the future?

     

    And when the download finishes, how do I store that so that I can then use it for when I install the new HD.

  • 26. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,310 points)

    Sorry for jumping in here:

     

    Which version of OS are you on?

     

    If your Mac didn't come with disks, did it come with Lion? I'm wondering because you stated that the store doesn't sell Lion - if you purchased it, you don't need to buy it again.

  • 27. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My computer came with OS X Lion....version 10.7.5. It is a MacBook Pro & only about 3 months old.

     

    When I look on the Apple store, it doesn't have Lion available, but Mountain Lion is available. 

  • 28. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,310 points)

    Have you looked under the Purchases section? It should be listed there

     

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    I got mine last year and it is always available to download again.

  • 29. Re: Does time machine back up the OS?
    sootshe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It's not in "purchases" as I didn't actually purchase it as a seperate item. It came pre installed on my new computer.