Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 11:49 AM (in response to nick-1989)
I have already given up to reply to KiltedTim LOL
The only reason he seems to be on this subject is to be rude, and call everyone a fool or stupid or whatever.
I advise everyone here not to react to his messages anymore and eventually I hope he will loose interest in posting his insults here.
That way we can focus on the real problem again.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 11:52 AM (in response to KiltedTim)
Proximus complies to the official LTE 1800 MHz standard, so there's no reason to complain to them. It is Apple who programmed the iPhone in such a way that it only connects to LTE networks that have been specifically enabled by them. Since we paid for a phone that support the LTE 1800 MHz standard, we are now asking Apple to enable access to Proximus LTE. If Apple refuses to do this, the European Union can order Apple to pay a huge fine, just like they did with Microsoft.
It's not a matter of supported carriers, it's a matter of supported technologies/standards and complying with fair competition laws. I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that. The only one who makes himself look like a fool, are you. I'm sure a lot of people here will agree on that. Now please leave this topic and go troll on a topic of your own country, thanks.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:03 PM (in response to nick-1989)
He's just the ultimate Apple fanboy. Whatever you tell him, Apple is always right
On topic again:
I think the carrier update will come. It's a win-win situation for both Apple & Proximus. Apple will sell more iPhones because it works on LTE, and Proximus will sell more subscriptions. Even Mobistar will have a part of the profit as M* is the official iPhone distributor in Belgium. And they released carrier bundles for Proximus in the past, I don't see why it should be a problem now.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:35 PM (in response to nick-1989)
An unlocked LTE phone should clearly work on a compatible LTE network WITHOUT Apple's permission, which is clearly not the case here. Way to go Apple.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:02 PM (in response to flibbertygibbet)
Then go complain to your government. You obviously don't understand how things work in the real world.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:06 PM (in response to KiltedTim)
Message to everyone !!!
Ignore, ignore, ignore ;-)
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:24 PM (in response to XofM)
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:38 PM (in response to Peter Gillespie)
Maybe you should have posted this when KiltedTim was calling some poeple over here Stupid, Fool, ....
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 12:45 PM (in response to KiltedTim)
I would argue that you don't understand how things work in the real world, at least outside of the USA.
In Europe it is very common to buy an unlocked phone, pop in whichever SIM card you want and use all of the your phone's functions. This behaviour with LTE is a situation which I have certainly not heard of before, and it is clearly something that has not been well advertised in Belgium, judging by the comments posted on this thread.
As has already been said, if you buy an unlocked phone, you don't expect to have to get the manufacturer's "permission" to use certain functionality, which is effectively what the situation is here. YOU are entitled to believe whatever you want, but that does not change the fact this situation is an unusual one, and is almost certainly a first, and an undesirable one at that.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 1:16 PM (in response to Pieter J.)
Hahaha nubs !
Mobistar got the 4g in antwerp , and say whaaat ? mobistar is the official carrier for 4g on iphone 5 !
Get telenet king or Mobistar subscriptions.
New iphone 6.1 wil be there at christmass , so prolly mobistar is finished testing.
so screw proximus customers with a brand new iphone 5 without 4g
Long live telenet
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 1:24 PM (in response to Pieter J.)
and yes mobistar and telenet are the supported carriers , but what if mobistar and telenet refuses 4g support to proximus?
then you are screwed with a iphone 5 with 3G
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 1:36 PM (in response to Yjordens)
Mobistar has LTE in Antwerp, only for a selected group of testers.
Proximus already has LTE fully operational in eight cities. They are still the No. 1 network in Belgium, with the most customers, the highest network quality, the highest and fastest investments in new technologies, the best network coverage, the fastest 3G, etc.
Mobistar/Telenet have their own carrier bundles for which they can activate LTE on the iPhone 5. This has nothing to do with Proximus.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 1:41 PM (in response to Pieter J.)
there is a part on antwerp yes there are testers.
But you dont know what they are testing , and yes i work for T...... @ mechelen.
and yes i know there will be more cities then proxi has.
Mobistar wil be the first to release 4G on iphone 5 and together with telenet.
trust me , it will take a long time to be able to on proxi.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 1:51 PM (in response to Yjordens)
"Telenet Customer Technical support advisor", that says it all. You're just trying to promote your employer on this forum.
More cities? How do you know? Proximus is still expanding its network. As soon as Apple sends out the required carrier update, we'll be able to use it on our iPhone 5. Regarding new technologies, Proximus always comes first, then Mobistar and eventually (after long time) KPN/Base.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2012 2:08 PM (in response to Yjordens)
What are "nubs"? And what a pointless pair of posts; all the emoticons in the world won't hide your true nature, and yours is not a nice one...