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cowbell bill Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
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Nov 12, 2012 2:57 PM

I have a software instrument track with a synth plug in Im not happy with. I found the synth I like on my korg keyboard. I'm guessing create an external midi track, drag the midi info to that track to trip the Korg. path is midi in and out thru the E magic AMT 8 using channel 2. Then audio out from the korg to an audio track. In addition what needs to be done for the correct path. First time using the Korg for this purpose. Thanks Bill

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 16, 2012 1:57 PM (in response to cowbell bill)

    Seem like you pretty much nailed it.

     

    Create an external MIDI track, drag "copy" or "move" the region(s) to the external MIDI track. Use the Ext MIDI tracks Inspector to select the MIDI Interface/port and channel number, I would also use the list editor to change all track data to the same MIDI channel the Korg is set to receive on.

     

    Some MIDI keyboards have a setting that echos MIDI In to MIDI Out, if the Korg has this feature it should be disabled. It's usually called a "Soft Thru"

     

    Audio out of the Korg into audio in on the interface. Set levels... I think it would be best to disable Preferences/Audio-software monitoring. I would record the Korg's output with only the External MIDI track enabled, no other audio ot MIDI tracks playing.

     

    A lot of what I suggested is precautionary but it covers all the bases.

     

    Another thing you can do is bounce the software instrument track and then compare the timing of the two audio tracks, the Korg audio track may be a little out of sync with the software instrument's bounce, adjust Preferences/Audio "Record Delay" to compensate. Once the record delay is set correctly it will be good for that "Sample Rrequency" and "I/O Buffer" size for any future recordings.

     

    The second method is to use the External Instrument "I/O"  plugin  on an audio track, the manual gives a good description of how to use it. The "I/O" plugin is in Logic's utilities plugins. It will treat the Korg like a Logic instrument allowing it to be bounced.

  • tobacco_slammers Calculating status...
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    Nov 16, 2012 1:52 PM (in response to cowbell bill)

    Try the following:

     

    • Select New, External MIDI Track.

     

    • Right click track in arrange view, select Reassign Track, MIDI Instr., select your device and choose a MIDI channel from list (most likely All MIDI Channels).

     

    • Copy and paste the MIDI info from your software instrument track.
  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 16, 2012 2:33 PM (in response to cowbell bill)

    cowbell bill wrote:

     

    P.S. @ PC The Korg is late 90's. I don't remember seeing anything called soft thru. It has hard wire midi thru, Which I don't use and local control off in settings. Does that ring a bell ?

     

    You're good then.

     

    If I were you I think I'd try the I/O plugin  on an audio track, you can enable software monitoring and treat the Korg audio out just like a soft synth and use Logic/AU effects on it.

     

    Either way will work though.

  • Data Stream Studio Calculating status...
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:08 PM (in response to cowbell bill)

    Instead of an external midi track, use an external INSTRUMENT on an instrument channel strip. This handy fellow provides midi and audio routing on the same track in the same window. Even has an input gain setting.

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 16, 2012 11:00 PM (in response to Data Stream Studio)

    Data Stream Studio wrote:

     

    Instead of an external midi track, use an external INSTRUMENT on an instrument channel strip. This handy fellow provides midi and audio routing on the same track in the same window. Even has an input gain setting.

     

    Thanks for clarifying, I use the original method (pre I/O plug), my whole system is wiret that way, I can route any external synth into Logic via a patchbay, I've never used the I/O plug but think I'll give it a try in the near future.

     

    p.s. Did you check out the PRS in my pic, one of the truly great inexpensive instruments made. Solid maple top.

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 17, 2012 9:11 AM (in response to cowbell bill)

    Bill, thanks for posting those tidbits, NICE!

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 17, 2012 4:24 PM (in response to cowbell bill)

    Looking at the picture once more... that guitar has the shape neck I like, wide, like a classical guitar, not that wide, but you know what I mean.

  • Pancenter Level 5 Level 5 (7,505 points)
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    Nov 17, 2012 6:05 PM (in response to cowbell bill)

    Check out this old guy.. Amp is from the same year as the guitar.

     

    Oh yeah... Logic records this guitar beautifully, but it doesn't have MIDI.   on topic  :-)

     

    HRGuitar-B-12.jpg

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