5 Replies Latest reply: Dec 25, 2012 1:32 PM by writergirl2
Joe Felice Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

Okay, so just bought an Apple TV for the first time, so this is all new to me! So far, most of it makes sense, but I'm wondering about how the unit manages downloaded content.

 

It seems to me that you rent a movie, Apple TV starts downloading it and makes it available to play. I live in Australia, so I have 30 days to start watching it, and once I've started, I have 48hrs to finish watching it.

 

So, I downloaded our first movie the other night. We watched half of it before sending the kids to bed (school night) and watching the rest of it ourselves. The next day we went to start watching it again, but from about halfway through so the kids could see the end of it. All was fine, except I noticed that Apple TV was downloading it again.

 

This puzzled me - that is, it didn't seem to make sense - I assumed the onboard 8GB would be used to store it for 48 hours from when we started playing it? So, is there some way to achieve this? For eg, if I set Apple TV to never sleep prior to renting a movie, then rent a movie, will it keep it stored for the authorised period because it hasn't gone to sleep?

 

If not, is there some way to achieve this outcome? I just don't see the point of using up a data allowance by downloading the exact same thing - even if I change my settings to standard definition it's still a waste of data.

 

I did do a few online searches of various FAQs, but couldn't find the answer to this question, so hopefully someone can shed some light on this for me or refer me to a good source of info.

 

Thanks!

 

 

  • 1. Re: How do I keep a rented movie locally stored for the authorised period?
    Brian Cook4 Level 4 Level 4 (1,820 points)

    >How do I keep a rented movie locally stored for the authorised period?

    You can't.  The OS controls memeory management.

  • 2. Re: How do I keep a rented movie locally stored for the authorised period?
    Joe Felice Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Thanks Brian. I realise the OS controls memory management, but was wondering what "rules" it used to manage it and whether any of the user settings (such as sleep) would affect it?

     

    So, if there's nothing the user can do to impact this, would it make more "sense" to rent the movie on iTunes on your Mac and then watch it on the Apple TV? Would that negate the need to re-download the movie each time you watched it? And, if so, what are the disadvantages of this approach?

     

    Or should I just forget the whole thing, increase my data allowance, and not worry about it?

     

     

     

    Still, it'd be nice not to have to redownload it if that was inconvenient for some reason.

  • 3. Re: How do I keep a rented movie locally stored for the authorised period?
    Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (17,035 points)

    It makes no sense at all.

     

    AppleTV 2/3 have no real storage, the memory management is awful, and the assumption is you have blazing unlimited internet which means redownloading something you just watched.

     

    You could rent in iTunes, keep the computer on and then play via Computers>Your iTunes>Rentals.

     

    iTunes (or ATV 1) won't delete until 30 days or play period is up.

     

    AC

  • 4. Re: How do I keep a rented movie locally stored for the authorised period?
    Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (17,035 points)

    Joe Felice wrote:

     

    Thanks Brian. I realise the OS controls memory management, but was wondering what "rules" it used to manage it and whether any of the user settings (such as sleep) would affect it?

     

    So, if there's nothing the user can do to impact this, would it make more "sense" to rent the movie on iTunes on your Mac and then watch it on the Apple TV? Would that negate the need to re-download the movie each time you watched it? And, if so, what are the disadvantages of this approach?

     

    Or should I just forget the whole thing, increase my data allowance, and not worry about it?

     

     

     

    Still, it'd be nice not to have to redownload it if that was inconvenient for some reason.

    Simple things like watching a movie preview or playing content from local iTunes will flush the buffered rental from ATV 2/3 - they only have 8GB of solid state storage and if you rent more than 1 HD movie (4GB or so) they will be competing for download/buffering space.

     

    The only disadvanatges of renting in iTunes are:

    - need for itunes to be running to play

    - some titles available in HD on ATV are only in SD via iTunes!

     

    AC

  • 5. Re: How do I keep a rented movie locally stored for the authorised period?
    writergirl2 Level 2 Level 2 (150 points)

    Hi sorry for butting into this conversation but I was having the same problems and found this discussion. Does the way the memory is used mean that if I download a movie but decide not to watch it and instead listen to music thru Apple TV the movie is flushed from the buffer and will have to be downloaded again? Which uses up data from my plan? Basically do you guys think that the only way to go is to download onto the mac and stream from that instead?

     

    Thanks!

    WG