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claudem99 Calculating status...
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Nov 17, 2012 6:23 PM

Hi

I am totally new at Mac, and at Aperture. I moved manually my original pictures folders that I had used in Aperture for project in an attempt to classiify them better.  I realized my mistake, when Aperture could not locate them. So I used:  'Relocate original'  and also 'Locate referenced file' in an attempt to fix my problem. Now what a surprise when I found all my projects photos on my desk top.

I use an external drive both for my librairy and for my original pictures.

 

Questions: 

1- Can I safely delete the photos on my desk top?

2- What did i do wrong?

3- I wish to move my library from my external drive to my macbook pro because it is to slow ... how do i do that?

 

thank you

 

claudem99

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), I use an external hard drive
  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,355 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:31 AM (in response to claudem99)

    claudem99,

    What is your Aperture version?

    And how did you import your image files into Aperture? From what you describe, I assume you imported your image files as "referenced" originals, (Aperture 3 User Manual: Working with Referenced Images), and Aperture did not import the image files, but references them in their original location.

    1- Can I safely delete the photos on my desk top?

    No, better not, not until you consolidated your Aperture library. These may be the only copies of your image files.

    2- What did i do wrong?

    When you are moving referenced referenced files, never use the Finder, let Aperture move the files with "Relocate Original files". Otherwise Aperture will not be able to keep track of the location.

    3- I wish to move my library from my external drive to my macbook pro because it is to slow ... how do i do that?

    Does your whole library fit onto the disk space on your Mac's system drive? How large is your library? And is currently your library on the external, or only the referenced images?

     

    I think the first thing you should do, would be to consolidate your library in one place. Assuming your library is on the external and you have plenty of space, do the following:

    • Check, if your backup of your library is current, before you start reorganizing your library.
    • Select all images at once (from the Photos View) and use the command "File > Consolidate Originals". Opt for "Move", rather than "Copy" the originals. This will move all original image files into your Aperture library, and you have them all in one place.
    • After consolidating check, if really all images are now managed in your library. You can do this with a filter: Select again the "Photos" view and set the Browser search field to the added rule "File status is referenced". No images should show up, but you should see all images with "File status is managed"
    • Are there still images with broken references and missing originals? Check the file status for "File status is offline" or "File status is missing". For all images with broken references do a "reconnect" like you have done before. Then consolidate them too.
    • Inspect the images on your Desktop. Can you find them in your Aperture library, and are they now managed? Only then can you delete them, but 'd make a backup before you do that.
    • Now you can copy the library to your MBP by dragging the library there using the Finder. This will result in a managed library on your MBP. But if you want to keep the library referenced, relocate the images from your older projects to a selected folder on your MBP or your external drive.
    • Checking the File Status:

     

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    Just in case you want again to use the external with Aperture, make sure it is formatted correctly:

    Format external drives to Mac OS Extended before using with Aperture

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,355 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 6:33 AM (in response to claudem99)

    Hi Claude,

    (That sound like a French name to me)

     

    yes, I think the origin is french, but it is also very popular in Germany. 

    But i had no idea my library was also  on my external drive.

    That is unusual - by default the library will be created in the "Pictures" folder. At some point you must have accidentally created a new library.

    I beleive that this has made for a very slow working experience.  am I correct?

    The library itself should be on a fast drive with a fast connection - otherwise it will be slow. Your WD Netbook drive is a network drive, right? This will be slow, unless the drive has a very fast network connection. Check the disk formatting with Disk Utility. Mac-compatible does not necessarily mean the correct file system. If the format is not "Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)" your library is in danger on that drive. Aperture needs the "Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)" formatting, even if other programs can cope with other formats, see:

    Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library

    If your Network drive cannot be formatted MacOS X Extended, you may store the originals there, but not the library itself.

     

    (How i had intended it to go was to put my original photos on the external HD and to import them as references images into my system drive)

     

    SInce you have enough space on your system drive, this could be accomplished by directly copying the "Actual" Library to your system drive - the default place would be the "Pictures" folder. Rename it to something different from the default name, so you can easily recognize it.

     

    Then you can do the procedure to consolidate  the library directly on the internal disk - that is safer than doing it on a network volume, that may lose the connection and need remounting at a critical moment.

     

    So your steps would be:

    • rename the library and copy the library to your system drive by dragging it using the Finder
    • consolidating all referenced images
    • checking for images that need reconnecting and reconnect them and consolidate them
    • create a backup, before importing further images.

    6- I do not see aperture being saved by time machine. Perhaps it is because it is on my external drive?

     

    Check the TIme Machine settings. You may have excluded your external drive or it was not mounted. Or does Time Machine backup to the same drive? Then this will not be included.

    Then you should use a different drive for your Aperture originals, otherwise they will not be backed up.

    Is skype an option between you and me

    this will not work, because I cannot guarantee to be available at fixed times, sorry.

     

    /finder/picture/ libr....This library is empty.

     

    That must be the default library created by Aperture, whenever your actual library is not mounted.

    'ipod photo cache'

    This is created to sync your images to your IOS devices using iTunes. It contains only previews, not the full size images.

    considering that there is no backup of my external drive in time machine

    Seeing you have many GB of images on that drive, it is urgent that you try to check the Time Machine settings.

     

    Post back, when you have more questions; otherwise let me hear, when you have moved the Aperture library to the internal drive and proceed with consolidating it.

     

    Greetings to Canada.

    I have never been to the eastern part of that beautiful country, only to the western states from Toronto to Vancouver.

     

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,355 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:38 PM (in response to claudem99)

    Claude,

    this looks like a permissions problem. Aperture cannot read the original files because of permissions problems, or Aperture cannot write into the transferred library.

     

    Is your Aperture library now on your internal drive? Then I'd try to repair it, before you go on:

    Repairing and Rebuilding Your Aperture Library: Aperture 3 User Manual

     

    Try first to repair the permissions, then repair the library, and rebuild, if necessary.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,355 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 1:38 PM (in response to claudem99)

    I have one library on my system drive (the empty one) and I have one other library on my external drive (the one which I can see my 5 projects when I open it)

     

    Try first to copy your current library with the five projects to your system drive, then to consolidate. You may have problems to write to the external drive when consolidating. It may be easier, when your library is on the system drive. Rename it before moving, so that it does not have the same name as your empty library. Then try again to consolidate.

     

    You could come to Canada!  i would trade your stay for fixing everything 

    One day I'll come for sure.There are quite a few miles of the Trans Canada Highway that I have not yet seen

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,355 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 2:28 PM (in response to claudem99)

    Great! Congratulations, Claude. All your projects there? And no images missing?

     

    Am I in the clear?

    Should I keep my photos as referenced or managed?

     

    How is your disk space situation? While you are still exploring Aperture and have enough disk space, I'd stay with a managed library. You may want to experiment with a small second library, if referencing works with your external drive. Once you are sure, that it is save to put the originals there and you are sure, the backup for this drive is working with Time Machine, it will be safe to go referenced.

     

    Then I'll sign off for tonight. It is getting late here.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,355 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 2:44 PM (in response to claudem99)

    You are welcome, Claude. My pleasure.

    should I delete the other library which is also in the picture folder?  (I don't use it) (it is empty)

     

    Since it is empty, you can delete it.

     

    Thanks for the invitation, I appreciate it.

     

    Léonie

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