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ribad Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi,

 

I am currently running Parallels Desktop 6 on a iMac with Snow Leopard OS 10.6.8 and Windows 7. I would like to upgrade to Mountain Lion OS 10.8.2 and continue running Windows 7 virtually. Is it true that I need to upgrade to Parallels Desktop 8? If so, what sequence should I follow? Some possibilities:

1) Upgrade to PD 8 first followed by an upgrade to OS 10.8.2

2) Upgrade to OS 10.8.2 first (not sure if this corrupts PD 6) and then upgrade to PD 8

3) Any other possibilities?

 

With any of these options what happens to Windows 7? I am hoping I do not have to reinstall.

 

Any help would be appreciated!

 

Thanks,

-Rajiv


iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    mende1 Level 10 Level 10 (89,570 points)

    Parallels Desktop 6 isn't supported on Mountain Lion, so you must update it before upgrading to OS X Mountain Lion. If you don't do this, Parallels Desktop can cause kernel panics. You'll keep your virtual machine, but you should make a backup before upgrading to Mountain Lion

  • 2. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    Actually the last update for Parallels 7 will work with Mountain Lion, if for some reason you have access to upgrading to 7 and prefer to do that.  But if you are paying the full upgrade price, go for version 8 anyway.

     

    With the upgrade to Mt. Lion, you will lose Rosetta and its transparent ability to run PowerPC applications (those written for the older PPC CPU platform from the mid 90s until 2006 after Mac's migration to the Intel CPU platform).

     

    The Roaring Apps Compatibility Table will help you determine if you have applications that are affected:

     

    http://roaringapps.com/apps:table

     

    If you run into trouble with older apps, here is a post that I assembled for a similar problem:

     

    Unfortunately you got caught up in the minor miracle of Rosetta.  Originally licensed by Apple when it migrated from the PowerPC CPU platform that it had used from the mid-1990's until the Intel CPU platform in 2006, Rosetta allowed Mac users to continue to use their library of PPC software transparently in emulation.

     

    However, Apple's license to continue to use this technology expired with new releases of OS X commencing with Lion (and now Mountain Lion).  While educational efforts have been made over the last 6 years, the fact is that Rosetta was SO successful that many users were caught unaware UNTIL they upgraded to Lion or Mountain Lion.

     

    Workarounds:

     

    1. If your Mac will support it, restore OS X Snow Leopard;

     

    2.  If your Mac will support it, partition your hard drive or add an external hard drive and install Snow Leopard into it and use the "dual-boot" method to choose between your PowerPC software or Lion/Mt. Lion;

     

    3.  Upgrade your software to Intel compatible versions, or find alternative software that will open your data files;

     

    3.  Install Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) into Parallels:

     

    Appleworks.jpg

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    Full Snow Leopard installation instructions here:

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439

     

    NOTE: STEP ONE of the instructions must currently be completed on a Snow Leopard or Lion Mac and the resulting modified Snow Leopard.cdr install file can then be moved over to your Mountain Lion Mac for completion of the remaining steps.

     

    NOTE 2:  Computer games with complex, 3D or fast motion graphics make not work well or at all in virtualization.

  • 3. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    3pin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If I erase, to free up all space, an external hard drive and install Snow Leopard on it will I be able to access the Power PC applications on my laptop which Mountain Lion has made inactive? Those applications are still residing on the MacBook Pro's hard drive. If so, does that mean I must boot up in the external hard drive, thus only running Snow Leopard? Or can I toggle between the drives? If yes what are the steps to select which drive I am booting up in, or to boot both and toggle? Or must I install those Power PC programs on the external drive?

     

    Yours,

    3pin

  • 4. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    Depending on when your Mac was released and which version of OS X is required to boot it, then yes, you may be able to install Snow Leopard on an external hard drive and use the "dual-boot" method to run it when needed.

     

    Many applications will not require re-installation into the external hard drive, and hence can be run off the internal drive.  But some will, depending upon what its Installation procedure installs into the System and Library folders.

     

    This method will not run concurrently with Mt. Lion (like using Bootcamp to run Windows, which will not run concurrently with Mac OS X); hence the term "dual-boot" but it is the most stable and effective method of running applications within Snow Leopard.

     

    You would use System Preferences Startup Disk to select which version of OS X will boot when you restart.  And there is a command key available to you that will also direct you to the selection as you startup.  I think it is the OPTION key as you startup.

  • 5. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    3pin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you MichaelLAX.

     

    Are there online instructions for the "dual-boot" method?

     

    Yours,

    3Pin

  • 6. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    Not that I am aware of other than other threads in this forum and others.

     

    What more do you need to know other than:

     

    1. Install Snow Leopard on external Hard Drive; and

     

    2.  Use System Preferences - Startup Disk or the Option key on Startup to choose which version of OS X you boot into.

     

    Which Mac do you have: give us ALL information under the Apple Menu of About This Mac and then More Information and then under Hardware Overview - Model Name and Identifier

  • 7. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    3pin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just plugged one of my old La Cie external drives into the MacBook Pro running Mtn Lion. The blue light is flashing on the external drive but it does not mount as a device in applications. Nor does it show up in Disk Utility. I suppose it is deemed Power PC by the current system.

  • 8. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    If you are going to install Snow Leopard into this external drive you need to use Disk Utility to reformat it (Erase) as:

     

    Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)

     

    Everything will of course be erased.

     

    UPDATE: Oh, it does not show up in Disk Utility.  You need to run some diagnostics on this drive.  Something is wrong!  A "PowerPC" drive will show up as an external drive in Mt. Lion, but it cannot be used as a startup disk.

     

    You may want to start a new thread for help on this subject.

  • 9. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    3pin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for staying with me. I rebooted the La Cie and it appeared! I'll do as you advise, throw some salt over my shoulder and have a beer. Let's see if this pans out and solves the problem of the dead end applications.

     

    Gratefully yours,

    3pin

  • 10. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    Try not to "look too down in the mouth" about the problem!

  • 11. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    3pin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So much for that.

     

    It won't install using the MacBook Pro running Mtn Lion. I get: You have "install Mac OS X" 23.1.1.

     

    And it won't install on my old iBook G4 as it says it needs an Intell chip.

     

    Snookered.

  • 12. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    Did you boot (restart holding down the "C" key) from a "retail" Mac OS X Snow Leopard Install DVD, such as that below (and not a restore DVD)?  You can purchase one for $19 by calling the Apple Store:

     

    [1-800-MY-APPLE (1-800-692-7753)] or Customer Service and Sales Support at 1-800-676-2775 (ask for a Sales Representative)

     

     

    You still have not provided the full information about your Mac that I requested, so it is hard to decypher completely your problem...

     

    10.6-Snow-Leopard.jpg

  • 13. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    3pin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Oh, the laptop I am working with is a MacBookPro,15-inch, 2.53GHz, Mid 2009 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB memory, plenty of drive space. I just installed OS X 10.8.2.

    Software  OS X 10.8.2 (12C60)

     

     

    Serial Number  W89235207XJ

     

    The install disc is Mac OS X Snow Leopard install DVD, Replacement, not for Resale.

     

    I did not reboot as I wanted to install it on the external hard drive, not the laptop.

  • 14. Re: Upgrading from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion
    MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,745 points)

    Much time and effort would have been saved if you just had indicated that you upgraded from Snow Leopard, and hence, your MBP can indeed boot Snow Leopard!

     

    We should cease hijacking this thread (12 posts out of 15), especially if I have to keep repeating myself.  So: start a new thread if you need further help; AND BOOT FROM THE SNOW LEOPARD DVD if you want to properly install it to your external hard drive.  GOOD LUCK!

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