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  • christopher rigby1 Level 4 Level 4 (2,070 points)
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    Nov 17, 2012 10:52 AM (in response to GeneMike)

    GeneMike wrote:

     

    No, I am leapfrogging from Tiger 10.4.11 to Mountain Lion 10.8.2.  I have never seen Leopard, Snow Leopard, nor Lion.  And, I went from OS9 directly to OSX 10.4, never seeing 10.1,2, or 3.  I have always done that - hanging on to a satisfactory OS until some application forces me to upgrade.

     

    And, what I am saying is that nothing in these systems have provided me with an appreciable gain in doing my tasks.  OS9 and the machines of that era did all I want done.

     

    To go to OSX direct from OS9, it didn't really matter whether you went straight to Panther, Tiger, Leopard etc - just jumping into OSX was a big culture change, and nothing in OSX's releases involved such a huge cultural shift. As it happens, Tiger was arguably the first OSX release that came near to replicating all the functions of OS9, but with the extra sophistication that OSX brought with it. (Remember when OS9 would 'freeze' or crash?).

     

    (For what it's worth - Leopard was a feature-rich update to Tiger, with Time Machine backups, Quicklook, and a better Mail app. (Spaces I don't use or need). Snow Leopard had hardly any new features over Leopard, but was streamlined for Intel Macs and future graphics card OpenCL technology. Lion brought OSX and iOS more in line with each other, and Mountain Lion takes that vision further.)

     

    But, to go straight from Tiger to Mountain Lion is a heap of hurt if you have older software. In one fell swoop, you lose Classic with its ability to run pre-PPC software; you lose Rosetta with its ability to run PPC-only software; you skip two versions of Apple Mail (is that even possible?); and you lose any kind of Apple Support - I am running Leopard on a G4 PB but Apple lets me run iTunes 10 and Safari 5, even if not the very latest versions. That's not bad for a 6-year-old OS running on a platform that was superseded also 6 years ago.

  • Phil Femano Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 17, 2012 11:00 AM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    What don't you like about this picture (FMP 7, or 6 if you wanted, purring along with all the features working perfectly on 10.6; whiile 10.7 runs concurrently)?

    I hadn't considered loading Mac OS into Parallels. One thing I don't like is that Parallels does not permit loading a client OS 10.6.x into Parallels Desktop. Only OS Server software is allowed. What's the difference between SL client vs. server under those circumstances?

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,530 points)
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    Nov 17, 2012 11:51 AM (in response to Phil Femano)

    I do not have much experience with Snow Leopard Server, only Tiger Server, and not much at that.

     

    It appears to me that the "Server" version just pumps up many capabilities for networking, like allowing for an unlimited number of clients to connect to your intra-network LAN.  Since my home/small business networks have never had more than 10 clients, I was always happy with the client version acting as a server through the built-in peer-to-peer capability.

     

    Snow Leopard Server, while originally costing $499 from Apple is now available on sources like eBay from $125 and down.  Parallels offers a 14 day free trial, but of course Snow Leopard Server cannot be obtained on such a basis. 

     

    While Parallels does not make it easy to install Snow Leopard client, my thread, (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439), shows it can be done and it is not too hard. And you only have to install it once, and then it is always available to you to use concurrently with Lion or Mt. Lion, as needed.  Parallels 8, through its Parallels Tools installation, now implements cross-environment cut & paste, which is a big addition.

     

    It is a common Urban Myth that the Snow Leopard EULA does not "allow" Snow Leopard's use in virtualization in Lion and Mt. Lion.  For some strange reason, that is hard to fathom , Apple prefers that you purchase SL Server when you virtualize it !  Maybe Parallels gets a $10 rebate EVERY time Snow Leopard Server is installed into it!?!

  • veropcnet Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 12:24 PM (in response to don gmt)

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    Proof: Appleworks 6 for Windows is running under Windows 8 Professional in a virtual machine (VM) using Parallels 7 on OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion. For complete instructions, visit my blog at Vero Beach Computer Repair: http://verobeachcomputerrepair.biz

     

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  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,530 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 1:07 PM (in response to veropcnet)

    You solution fails to offer a desktop photo of me holding my newborn grandson (about the time that I put together my Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) into Parallels solution) :

     

    Appleworks.jpg

  • veropcnet Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 1:32 PM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    Very Nice!

    However, please be very specific...What version of Parallels ie 7.x.x and is this Snow Leopard Server or Client?

     

    Thanks

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,530 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 2:16 PM (in response to veropcnet)

    Parallels 7.0.15106 (Build 786747; August 3, 2012)  Many others have indicated this works with Parallels 8, which also implements full cut & paste across the OS X environments through the installation of Parallels Tools.

     

    Snow Leopard client (either 10.6 or 10.6.3 from the two retail Mac OS X Snow Leopard Install DVDs available from Apple and then upgraded to 10.6.8 through System Update):

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439

  • veropcnet Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
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    Nov 18, 2012 3:51 PM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    Thank you for the tutorial on Macrumors

  • Richard Hall3 Calculating status...
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:00 AM (in response to Roger Wilmut1)

    If I click on an Appleworks w/p document whilst running Lion, instead of opening in Pages it tries by default to open in Keynote. Works OK if I ask Pages to open it. Is their any way in which I can switch the computer to use Pages as the default programme to open Appleworks files instead of trying to use Keynote?

  • GeneMike Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:13 AM (in response to Richard Hall3)

    - In the finder, find and select the Appleworks WP document in question.

    - Go to Finder/File/Get Info

    - In the Get Info window, go down to the section "Open With", use the drop down menu and select Pages

    - If you want all such docs to open with Pages, then click on the "Change All" box just below

  • Richard Hall3 Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:24 AM (in response to GeneMike)

    Excellent. Worked perfectly thank you.

  • GeneMike Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:27 AM (in response to Richard Hall3)

    Richard Hall3 wrote:

     

    Excellent. Worked perfectly thank you.

    How about a "LIKE!"

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,530 points)
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    Dec 8, 2012 8:55 AM (in response to GeneMike)

    GeneMike wrote:

     

    Richard Hall3 wrote:

     

    Excellent. Worked perfectly thank you.

    How about a "LIKE!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRmzNGZ_8Xg

  • Richard Hall3 Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
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    Dec 8, 2012 9:47 AM (in response to MlchaelLAX)

    Brilliant! Like it.

  • John Franz Calculating status...
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    Apr 30, 2013 10:33 AM (in response to don gmt)

    I've been getting ready to upgrade to Lion or get a new computer. I've used AW since the early 80's and of course had to covert the files several times, from the Apple IIc to Mac to OSX, etc. The current upgrade is the worst.

     

    For the databases I bought FileMaker Pro. Very difficult program to learn but I've finally got all my databases converted.

     

    For the WP files, about 40,000, I can't find a way except to open them in AW6 and then save them. I find that I can open about 65 at a time and then quit and hold down the return key while they save. A long process. I have about 8,000 to go.

     

    For drawing files. I have deed plottings. The only thing I could come up with is to save them as JPEG, open them in preview and then save them as pdf files. Not perfect, I can't change them, but at least I can still see them.

     

    It's been a long painful and expensive project that I should never have had to do.  In the past I could convert all the WP files in a few hours with mac-link doing bulk conversions. I'll never understand why Apple abandoned AppleWorks. 

     

    I also have a program that does the original deed plottings that only runs in system 9. For that I keep an old iMac, last one I have working. I guess deed plotting is not important enough for anyone to bother writing a decent program for OSX that does deed plottings. LandCalc was a great program but was never converted to OSX.

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