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10 ATVs home-sharing 1 itunes library

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meire Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Nov 5, 2012 5:18 AM

Hi,

 

Is anyone had such experience ?

10 ATV3 doing home sharing to the same Itunes Library . the appleID on ATV inserted on home sharing ' not in itunes account .

Is home sharing acts like Itunes store - 5 computers limit ? Is ATV considers as computer at all?

 

Thanks,

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  • Brian Cook4 Level 4 Level 4 (1,820 points)
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    Nov 5, 2012 8:27 AM (in response to meire)

    I can not tell what you are asking?  You really have 10 ATV's at your house?  What for?  Part of Apple's FairPlay DRM restrictions are that you can only only activate 5 devices for your account.  That includes computers, iPads, iPhones, iPods, ATV's etc.  So you will only be able to watch DRM content (mainly TV shows and movies) on five devices.

  • BergerT Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Nov 7, 2012 4:42 AM (in response to meire)

    You need the apple-ID to activate home sharing (from iTunes), even if the content you are sharing does not have DRM (i.e. normal MP3 audio or MP4 video). It will ask when you enable iTunes as a server bascially.

     

    Also, you need to pair the AppleTV with the iTunes Library you are sharing, so I guess (cannot try, don't have moer than 5 devices) this is where the limit of 5 devices comes into play.

     

    1) 5 device limit

    http://www.apple.com/itunes/inside-itunes/2012/04/share-your-itunes-library-with -others-by-using-home-sharing.html

    ... "sharing for each computer on the home WiFi network (up to five)" (the appleTV does count as once device)

     

    2) password required to enable home sharing:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4352

  • Brian Cook4 Level 4 Level 4 (1,820 points)
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    Nov 7, 2012 7:48 AM (in response to meire)

    If the content is not DRM'ed and is in an open format like MPEG, MP4, etc. then the limit of five devices does not come into play.  You can only active 5 devices with iTunes, but I am not aware of a connection count limit for just home sharing.  However home sharing is limited to your local network so this will probably not work.  The differnt parts of your campus are probably on differnt subnets which would keep a home sharing connectoin from working.  Additionally trying to source 10 diffenrt video streams from one iTunes instance concurrently will likely overwhelm the network connection and cause the video to be choppy, pause or hang.  What you are trying to do is not what ATV is designed for.   There are comerical grade products for that type of applicaiotn.

  • quitsayingmetoo Calculating status...
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:46 PM (in response to Brian Cook4)

    I see so much "speculation" on these Apple forums it makes my head spin sometimes!

     

    Let me talk from personal experience...

     

    We run SEVEN (7) 3rd generation AppleTVs at our business with no issue on a Mac Mini i7 server (16Gb) that also runs two virtual OS on them including Win Server 2008 and Win Server 2003. If you look at the bandwidth and memory usage the i7 is bearly taxed, ever. The 2nd and 3rd generation ATV have a 8Gb cache so once the content is "streamed" to the ATV there is no additional bandwidth usage. Chances are most homes, businesses or even schools are NOT going to be downloading the same large file at the same time...but even if they did chances are hour 100mbps or 1gbps network will take no issue with this. At worse there could be a HD bottle neck if you are running a 8 year old mac mini with 5400 drive, but I digress.

     

    We use them to loop content in playlists...this works well but most of the wifi based ATVs will eventually get a hickup in the LAN that kicks the content off...so I've been slowly hardwiring the ATVs in the LAN for better stability.

     

    Keep in mind the devices mentioned toward the "5" number are computers. I've never seen a limit in my house which consists of...

     

    4 iphone

    4 ipads

    4 ATV

    3 OSX systems

     

    All are on the same iTunes/home sharing account.

     

    Lastly, the 5 limit was true for the first generation AppleTVs that show up in your iTunes preferences under the Apple TV tab...any more then 5 and we had to run a virtual OSX system to handle the 6th and 7th system. I noted that the first generation units were getting harder and harder to keep talking to iTunes so we upgraded to the 3rd generations. Proof of concept says it works.

     

    Apple only has one small bug in the matter for our need...on the ATV the "repeat music" should read as "repeat playlist" and the REMOTE app for ipad/iphone turns off the "repeat music" functionality on the ATV so any playlisted selected doesn't loop if changes are made from the REMOTE app.

  • Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (16,635 points)
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    Nov 19, 2012 3:44 PM (in response to Brian Cook4)

    Brian Cook4 wrote:

     

      Part of Apple's FairPlay DRM restrictions are that you can only only activate 5 devices for your account.  That includes computers, iPads, iPhones, iPods, ATV's etc.

    No it doesn't, rather they don't count.

     

    5 Computers.

     

    See:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/PH1730

  • Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (16,635 points)
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    Nov 19, 2012 3:40 PM (in response to meire)

    meire wrote:

     

    Hi,

     

    Is anyone had such experience ?

    10 ATV3 doing home sharing to the same Itunes Library . the appleID on ATV inserted on home sharing ' not in itunes account .

    Is home sharing acts like Itunes store - 5 computers limit ? Is ATV considers as computer at all?

     

    Thanks,

    There seems to be a 5 ATV limit per iTunes library.

     

    I suspect this relates more to potential bandwidth issues trying to stream to more but who knows.

     

    AC

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