13 Replies Latest reply: Nov 22, 2012 9:10 AM by Old Toad
azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Using iPhoto 11 and editing RAW files in Photoshop, where do the edited JPEG/TIFF files go when saved? The oringal RAW/NEF file is in the iPhoto Event, but I can't find the edited version. I thought it saved to the Event, but if not, where?

Thanks,

Brian


iMac
  • 1. Re: where is edited image
    azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Additional comment:  I see in older threads reference to the iPad "Library" and possibly a "modified" folder? Is so, how do I have to exit iPhoto and go into the "library" some other way? I'm using Mountain Lion if that complicates/simplifies this...

    Brian

  • 2. Re: where is edited image
    azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    2nd Additional Comment: I found the "modified" folder but all it shows are three iPhoto "converted" jpeg images of the original imported RAW images... but the edited jpeg is not there.

     

    Here's the path:

    iPhoto Library (show package contents) > Modified > year > month > day > folder name > image folders (3)

     

    Brian

  • 3. Re: where is edited image
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,645 points)

    1 - do not go directly into the iPhoto library - that is not supported and is dangerous - a small iser error can corrupt your iPhoto library and cause data loss

     

    2 - exactly how are you editing and saving?  The correct way is to set PhotoShop as the external editor and to save (not save as) when editing is complete

     

     

    LN

  • 4. Re: where is edited image
    Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (123,745 points)

    Processing Raw in a 3rd Party Application

     

    You can process your Raw with a 3rd Party app like ACR or Photoshop. But iPhoto does not handle this gracefully and it's a bit of a kludge.

     

    First off set your preferred app as an external editor in iPhoto:

     

    You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.

     

    Note that iPhoto sends a copy of the file to Photoshop, so when you save be sure to use the Save command, not Save As... If you use Save As then you're creating a new file and iPhoto has no way of knowing about this new file. iPhoto is preserving your original anyway.

     

    Next: In the iPhoto Preferences -> Advanced, elect to use Raw with your External editor:

     

    Now when you go to edit the Raw it will be sent to your external editor.

     

    Now for the kludge:

     

    You cannot save a Raw. The work you do must be output to a new file, in a new format (jepg, tiff, whatever). However, as the External Editor is making this new file iPhoto has no knowledge of its existence. Therefore you must save it to the desktop and then import it back to iPhoto as a new file.

     

    This means that you will have your Original Raw and the processed version in iPhoto but they will not be recognised as version and original. iPhoto will see them as two separate shots.

  • 5. Re: where is edited image
    azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Terence, thanks. It doesn't solve my workflow problem, or where the amended file is being saved,  but it does offer a workaround if I stick with iPhoto.

    Brian

  • 6. Re: where is edited image
    azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    LarryHN, I've got iPhoto set up to process the RAW files in Photoshop CS4.

     

    Basically, I'm saving the camera folder and renaming it, deleting the images I don't want and then processing individual images in PS. Since I keep a "master" edited TIFF of the RAW, then do several versions of the same image (B&W, composite etc), the task is keeping the original RAW, edited master, and versions all tied together.

     

    I've set up Smart Albums with keywords for the various file types, so the only gap in the workflow is going out of iPhoto and bringing the edited files back in.

     

    Brian

  • 7. Re: where is edited image
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,645 points)

    They are where you put them

     

    Therefore you must save it to the desktop and then import it back to iPhoto as a new file.

     

    This means that you will have your Original Raw and the processed version in iPhoto but they will not be recognised as version and original. iPhoto will see them as two separate shots.

    Then when you import them into iPhoto they are a new photo in an event there

     

     

    LN

  • 8. Re: where is edited image
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,660 points)
    or where the amended file is being saved,

     

    The previously edited files were probably saved in the same folder as the orignial RAW file is located in the iPhoto Library unless you selected a diffrerent location in the save process:

    Highlight001.jpg

    The screenshot is from Photoshop CS3. The lower red oval shows the location of the orignal file and the destination of the edited file if saved without changing it.

     

    A change in the workflow to always save to the Desktop and import as a new image file as TD has already pointed out will be necessary.

     

    OT

  • 9. Re: where is edited image
    azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Larry,

    "They are where you put them" ?

     

    How is that kind of answer going to help me?

     

    I didn't "put them" anywhere, I just saved them. Then iPhoto assigned them to a Library folder I couldn't even find until going in through Finder > iPhoto Library and eventually finding the "show package contents" command, and from there I had to drill down through eight levels and then manually scan through a pile of non-sequential OS-assigned file numbers buried in the "Modified" folder.

     

    Thanks,

    Brian

  • 10. Re: where is edited image
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,660 points)

    He gave that answer because when you edit a raw file in Photo shop and to go to save it you get the window I posted above and it give you the location or the opportunity to change the location.

  • 11. Re: where is edited image
    azartguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OT,

    I'm pretty much up on PS and it's file saving conventions, so if he was referring to that end of the process the comment wasn't really germane.

     

    My issue is that once that folder is in iPhoto and the PS-edited file is saved back to that folder, it disappears into the Apple OS filing system. That's fine for archiving completed images but not so good for intermediate work-in-progress images where the RAW image, the "master" and versions may all come into play. I suspect that iPhoto/Aperture were not designed originally to work with RAW files and every update since has been an attempt to "kludge" it together and it just doesn't work well.

     

    In any case, the comment that the file was where I "put it," as is sometimes the case on forums from higher-level participants, was a bit condesceding. We come here for advice from more experienced Apple users; usually it's good, solid advice based on both experience and a desire to help, so we all learn and benefit. Sometimes not so much.

     

    Brian

  • 12. Re: where is edited image
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,645 points)

    Well whe you save a photo you specify where it goes - either by save where it goes back to where it cam from or by save as where you specifiy where it goes - no one here knows what you did or what you typed - it goes where you told it to

     

    Sorry that you fine that "condesceding" but it is a fact - no one here is a mind reader - we have no idea what you did - but where every you specificed to save it is saved

     

    Have a great thanksgiving

     

    LN

  • 13. Re: where is edited image
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,660 points)

    Yes.  Once it's been saved it's very hard to find and move out of the library unless you know which photos you've edited that way.  If you do the select the photo, use the File ➙ Show in Finder ➙ Original menu option and that will take you to the folder with the original RAW file and, hopefully, the edited jpg version. Then you can move it to the Desktop and import as a new file.