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MarkTL Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

After install of Windows 7 on bootcamp I would like to shrink the Bootcamp partition and setup a second windows partition. Is this possible?


Mac mini (Late 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    No

  • 2. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    gdmk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Csound1 - I don't know why you keep saying that it is not possible when it is.

     

    MarkTL please see the following discussion, https://discussions.apple.com/message/20344625?ac_cid=op123456#20344625, but please pay special attention to the final paragraphs.

  • 3. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    gdmk wrote:

     

    Csound1 - I don't know why you keep saying that it is not possible when it is.

     

    MarkTL please see the following discussion, https://discussions.apple.com/message/20344625?ac_cid=op123456#20344625, but please pay special attention to the final paragraphs.

    Read this forum some more, that method has variable results, and requires removal of the Recovery Partition, perhaps you should remind others to make some kind of Recovery provisions on other media?

  • 4. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    MarkTL Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I was about to question that as my new mac mini does not come with any cd's.

  • 5. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    MarkTL wrote:

     

    I was about to question that as my new mac mini does not come with any cd's.

    That is correct, there is a recovery partition on your hard drive to enable you to reinstall OSX or run maintenance etc, adding an extra partition for Windows will remove it.

     

    And as this is an unsupported (by Apple) method I would strongly suggest  that you make a complete clone of your OSX partition plus whatever Windows allows for the Windows partition before you start.

  • 6. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    MarkTL Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you all for the discussion. Instead of adding a partition for the work I need to do, I am going to add a external SSD to my USB 3 ports - going the safe route.

  • 7. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    Thats a good choice.

  • 8. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    gdmk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    that method has variable results, and requires removal of the Recovery Partition, perhaps you should remind others to make some kind of Recovery provisions on other media?

    If you had read my post carefully you would see that I stressed that the HD Recovery parition had to be removed before a second partition can be created under Windows. Therefore it can be done, so there is no point in misleading people, by saying it can't be done.

     

    What is of more serious concern is that a Mountain Lion upgrade just writes over an existing NTFS partition (no questions asked) just so the HD Recovery partition can be installed.

     

    I'd leave it to the individual user to decide  whether he/she is comfortable operating an Apple OS with or without a OSX recovery partition. I don't remember it being of any great concern under Snow Leopard when there was no recovery partition. Obviously recovery partitions have their uses and would usually be seen as a good feature, but they are not essential.

     

    Different folks see things like a recovery parition as something they can live with or not, especially if their primary use of the machine is to run Windows. Pleae leave it for them to decide, but don't mislead them.

  • 9. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    gdmk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    That is a reasonable choice too.

  • 10. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    gdmk wrote:

     

    that method has variable results, and requires removal of the Recovery Partition, perhaps you should remind others to make some kind of Recovery provisions on other media?

    If you had read my post carefully you would see that I stressed that the HD Recovery parition had to be removed before a second partition can be created under Windows. Therefore it can be done, so there is no point in misleading people, by saying it can't be done.

     

    What is of more serious concern is that a Mountain Lion upgrade just writes over an existing NTFS partition (no questions asked) just so the HD Recovery partition can be installed.

     

    I'd leave it to the individual user to decide  whether he/she is comfortable operating an Apple OS with or without a OSX recovery partition. I don't remember it being of any great concern under Snow Leopard when there was no recovery partition. Obviously recovery partitions have their uses and would usually be seen as a good feature, but they are not essential.

     

    Different folks see things like a recovery parition as something they can live with or not, especially if their primary use of the machine is to run Windows. Pleae leave it for them to decide, but don't mislead them.

    Perhaps you might mention the potential downside and possible pitfalls before suggesting it, you haven't been here long enough to see some of the problems this can cause.

  • 11. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    gdmk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Perhaps you might mention the potential downside and possible pitfalls before suggesting it, you haven't been here long enough to see some of the problems this can cause.

    Again I would claim I did both here and in my post. I would have thought before any user deletes any sort of partition, they might just check out the reason that it is there and therfore understand the consequences. If you don't understand what you are about to do then obviously don't do it.

     

    I didn't realize that you need to be here for a considerable time before you know the "potential downside and possible pitfalls". Doesn't owning and using a MacBookPro with both OS's for three years qualify in any way? I might point out that none of the problems of my original post were solved from this community, hence my original post. Too many here, like your post in this thread, that claimed it can't be done. Would it not be better to acknowledge that it can be done and then issue your "potential downside and possible pitfalls" explanations.

     

    However, I'm always willing to learn more, perhaps you may care to enlighten me. Could you please point me to other discussions that discuss and provide solutions to this discussion and the other points I made in my post.

  • 12. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    gdmk wrote:

     

    Perhaps you might mention the potential downside and possible pitfalls before suggesting it, you haven't been here long enough to see some of the problems this can cause.

    Again I would claim I did both here and in my post.

     

    This is your post.

     

    gdmk wrote:

     

     

     

    Csound1 - I don't know why you keep saying that it is not possible when it is.

     

    MarkTL please see the following discussion,https://discussions.apple.com/message/20344625?ac_cid=op123456#20344625, but please pay special attention to the final paragraphs.

    No mention of any provisions for recovery or backup, no mention that this is an unsupported procedure, no mention of possibe unwanted consequences.

  • 13. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    gdmk Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    No mention of any provisions for recovery or backup, no mention that this is an unsupported procedure, no mention of possibe unwanted consequences.

    I think you could assume from the subject heading and the content of the post, that I was writing to an audience that I believed would have a thorough understanding of the nature of backups and and recovery partitions. I'm quite sure, if a user is conversant with items such as editing the info.plist from a the contents folder of the Boot Camp Assistant Application, then it is safe to assume that they are also aware that it is not exactly a supported feature.

     

    It wasn't written as step by step tutorial deliberately. It was written as a procedure to solve a particular set of problems, one of them being the use of two partitions within Windows. An experieced user would have gained enough information to search for all the exact steps, so I don't believe that type of audience needs an unnecessary warning about the consequences of not having an adequate backup or the function of a recovery partition.

     

    If the reader was inexperieced, then I'd suggest he'd have to ask a heap more questions before jumping in.

     

    In conclusion, still a way more informative answer that your incorrect single word No answer.

  • 14. Re: adding another partition in the bootcamp partition
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,455 points)

    First you claim that you did warn of pitfalls

     

    Then you say that you judged there was no need to warn

     

    ?

     

    I put no credibility in your words anymore, bye.

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