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Hard drive sleep

1428 Views 12 Replies Latest reply: Nov 28, 2012 12:12 AM by Glen Doggett RSS
paulpen Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
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Nov 15, 2012 4:51 AM

OS 10.4.11:  Both physical hard drives set to "sleep when possible" (which itself is pathetically lame, obviously-why can't you set a specific delay..?)

 

Anyway, they spin down after 5-15min (the time doesn't even seem to be consistent), then spin back up 30secs later! Or, sometimes they spin up a little while later, when I'm sitting there reading a webpage, or watching a movie, or doing nothing at all. Just now, they both came back on even though the monitor was dark and i'd been sitting there working at my desk for an HOUR--without touching the computer.

 

I guess i could understand the startup drive spinning up for little or no reason, but WHY would the other hard drive spin up..?? This does NOT happen in Windows, nor in in OS9!  This is so infuriating I am ready to get in a car and drive to Cupertino, or wherever the crooks at Apple are located now, and get some answers. Is there any way to get Apple support on a G4? I doubt it.

 

Has anyone had this experience..? Has anyone even noticed/care what their hard drives are doing? This is beyond absurd. It's not like i'm using OS 10.0.1.  Horrible bugs like this should have been worked out by 10.4.11. Thanks.

 

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PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.4.11), G4; G5; Dual-Core iMac.
  • John Galt Level 7 Level 7 (33,090 points)
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    Nov 15, 2012 4:51 AM (in response to paulpen)

    paulpen wrote:

     

    Has anyone had this experience..? Has anyone even noticed/care what their hard drives are doing? This is beyond absurd.

     

    Yes. I can't eat. I can't sleep. This is going to push me over the edge, I tell you. How do you cope? Perhaps we should form a support group.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,790 points)
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    Nov 21, 2012 10:33 PM (in response to paulpen)

    Anyone..?

    Forgive me, I lost most of my computer equipment in a break-in recently, but did you ask me never to try to help you again in the past???

  • Anic264b Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Nov 24, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to paulpen)

    paulpen wrote:

     

    Anyone..? This is basic system functionality; hence it is boring but important. The fact that hard drive sleep is so flaky/unreliable/screwed up/pathetic in OS X 10.4.11 almost makes it seem like OS 10.4 (or OSX in general) was just a stopgap between release of the G4.

    Sadly, people are always less curious these days. It's getting more and more a “if things «work», why even try to understand how they work or what diagnostic logs mean?” attitude, worldwide. This is a generality and is globally my feelings, including in this forum. Your question is a good one.

    So, have you tried what happens with an USB drive? Does it also go to sleep?

    (my 10.4 computer is currently open (unscrewed) so I can't test).

  • Limnos Level 8 Level 8 (36,585 points)
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    Nov 27, 2012 12:55 PM (in response to paulpen)

    It could be Spotlight indexing.  It does drives individually.

     

    I suspect getting to the root of it requires somebody who's a Unix pro, or the OSX programmer. 

     

    I'm working off memory here but I thought the advice was not to sleep drives anyway.  Sure it helps with a laptop where they use up battery power but for a regular computer it's been argued it's harder on a drive to stop and start than keep on running unless you're talking a day or more.

     

    (Hint:  Don't diss BDaqua even if he does occasionally miss a detail in a post -- he's the one who really knows the stuff in this forum. )

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,790 points)
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    Nov 27, 2012 2:49 PM (in response to paulpen)

    I think Limnos has you covered right now.

  • Glen Doggett Level 4 Level 4 (1,780 points)
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    Nov 28, 2012 12:12 AM (in response to Limnos)

    my hard drives will spin down and sleep just fine, but they don't wake up.

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