7 Replies Latest reply: Nov 23, 2012 9:52 AM by Old Toad
lburech Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

If I make changes to a photo in iPhoto,does time machine just make changes in the individual photo in those packages or does it  backup the whle  package even though only a single change was made?  If the whole package, do you have any suggestions on how to run sensible backups, so I don't run out of space on my backup hard drive.  I have over 7,500 photos, and  I am constantly adding minor information changes to my photos.


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • 1. Re: iPhoto Backups
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,670 points)

    Neither - TM does do incremental backups so it does not copy the entire library again

     

    BUT TM does not change the existing backup - it saves the new information and keeps track of what changed when so you can restore any file from ay time

     

    The volume for the TM backup should be 2 1/2 times the size of your main drive for best results

     

    LN

  • 2. Re: iPhoto Backups
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,670 points)

    This will explain how Time Machine works:  Mac Basics: Time Machine.  This is another site by one of the TM gurus in the Apple Community here describing how TM works: About Time Machine How Time Machine Works its Magic.  It's more detailed than the Apple doucment.

     

    As the drive fills up TM will delete the oldest backup to make room for the newest one.

     

    OT

  • 3. Re: iPhoto Backups
    lburech Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am still a bit confused.  If I am missing a photo which I foolishly deleted and trashed, don't I have to restore the entire iPhoto library?  How do I restore "any file" as suggested?

  • 4. Re: iPhoto Backups
    LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (56,670 points)

    Yes you have to restore the iPhoto library conpletely - it is a SQLite database and you do not deal with the files

     

    LN

  • 5. Re: iPhoto Backups
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,670 points)

    There is a way you might be able to find individual photos in the TM backup us but you have to know the file name for the photo.

     

    Here's how:

    1 - download and launch the shareware  Find Any File application. It can search areas that Spotligh can't.

    2 - select your Time Machine drive as the drive to search.

    Find Any File001.jpg

    3 - enter the file name of the photo to search for and hit Find:

    It will be a very slow search due to the nature of the Time Machine structure.

    4 - When the file is located you can drag it from the search results window to your Desktop.

    TMphotorecover.png

     

    OT

  • 6. Re: iPhoto Backups
    lburech Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    When you say the "filename for the photo" do you mean the name I gave it or the metadata name.  I can only locate my photos in spotlight by the metadata name. This all seems unnecessarily complicated.  Apple used to be very user friendly.

  • 7. Re: iPhoto Backups
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,670 points)

    The file name is the name that the file had when imported into iPhoto. Trying to recover a delete photo is not a normal operation on any platform, Mac or PC. 

     

    Normally you should never have to use Spotlight to locate a photo in an iPhoto library for use outside of iPhoto. The following is from a post by Terence Devlin on accessing photos for use outside of iPhoto.  It's the definitive treatise on the subject.

     

    The following is from Terence Devlin’s post in this topic on file access for use outside of iPhoto - where are the photos saved on my PC?: Apple Support Communities.  It’s the definitive treatise on the subject.

    There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto:   You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Command-Click for selecting multiple pics.

     

    Open dialogue-1.jpg

     

    (Note the above illustration is not a Finder Window. It's the dialogue you get when you go File -> Open)

     

    You can access the Library from the New Message Window in Mail:

     

    New Message Window.jpg

     

    There's a similar option in Outlook and many, many other apps.  If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.

     

    If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.

     

    If you want to access the files with iPhoto not running:

     

    For users of 10.6 and later:  You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation  which will give you access to the iPhoto Library from your Services Menu.

     

    Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.

     

    For Users of 10.4 and 10.5 Create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser

     

    Other options include:

     

    Drag and Drop: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.

     

    File -> Export: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.

     

    Show File:  a. On iPhoto 09 and earlier:  Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.    3.b.

     

    b: On iPhoto 11 and later: Select one of the affected photos in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Reveal in Finder -> Original. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.