8 Replies Latest reply: Nov 26, 2012 6:43 AM by mnstudio
mnstudio Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

1. Every time I use the function Open score (cmd/3 here) after having selected 2 or more sequences, I get the concerning score parts.

Now, the problem is that every time, even if I don't want it, I also get a new instrument set, and seeing that I use this option many times during a song working, because it's very time saving for me, after a while I have a huge list of unwanted instrument sets.

Now I wonder: how can it happen that I can't avoid this behaviour? I'd like to avoid to automatically save the various sets that I open, but I can't find the way to do it...

 

2. I use the "open score window" option because using "toggle score" I can't get the selected sequences (more than 1) to be viewed.... It doesn't work here

  • 1. Re: 2 issues opening score
    CCTM Level 6 Level 6 (9,015 points)

    Hi

     

    1) This is how Logic works.... if you open a new Score window using cmd3 it will make a new Score Set if it needs one

     

    2) You could use Screensets instead, with the window linking function set to "Same Level" or "Off"

     

     

     

    CCT

  • 2. Re: 2 issues opening score
    mnstudio Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Remains the problem of toggle score.. It doesn't show the selected sequences as it should be...

    On the contrary, with toggle piano roll it works....

  • 3. Re: 2 issues opening score
    CCTM Level 6 Level 6 (9,015 points)

    Hi

     

    How have you got the Window Linking set in the Score window: Yellow, Purple or Grey?

     

    CCT

  • 4. Re: 2 issues opening score
    mnstudio Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    It's yellow, as it has to be..

    It seems that it opens the previous cmd-3 window set, even if I select other sequences...

  • 5. Re: 2 issues opening score
    musicspirit Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)

    1 - Select the Instruments in the Arrange that you want to make into a group. ie lets say you want to see only the horns just select those, and then use Command 3 to open the Score.

     

    2 - Once you have the Score Window that reflects the instruments, go to 'Create Score Set from Selection' in the Layout Menu. Although Logic automatically creates a Score Set, it is kind of better to do this.

     

    3 - Double click in the Score Set window at the top and give it your own Name - this makes it easier to identify when you want to us bring it up.

     

    4 - Go to the Screenset Menu above and Click "Duplicate" - it will say Duplicate to no  - and then you type in a Screenset Number that you are not using and give that Screen set a Name.

     

    5 - It will say 'Do you want to overwrite"?" and you say YES  - so lets say that is Screenset 4. You now have the Selection of Instruments displayed in Screenset 4.

     

    6 - LOCK Screenset 4 so that the little black dot appears next to the screenset number.

     

    Now wherever you navigate as soon as you press 4 you should get that Screenset back with the Score of those instruments

     

    * * *

     

    Do the same for other groups of instruments and ignore all the extra screensets that Logic creates ( though you can delete them if they drive you nuts hunting through to find the ones you need).

     

    HTH

     

    MS

  • 6. Re: 2 issues opening score
    mnstudio Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    That’s very kind of you, musicspirit, your info but I did know this procedure.

    The point is that I continuosly change the group I have to view in the score (one time all the dtrings, another time only I and II Violins, another I Violins and horns, ecc. ecc.), It depends on what I have to arrange in that moment...

    So I hardly open the same group, it can happen, obviously, but in a very random way..

    So I have to instantly view those 3/4 sequences in that moment to insert my new phrase.

    Now, the procedure you described is efficient, but it isn't right for me.

    What I don't understand is why this option work in Piano roll and NOT in score...

     

    From the manual:

    When the Link Button Is Turned On

    • Each time you select another region in the composition area, the Piano Roll Editor updates to reflect the contents of this region.
    • Selecting several regions simultaneously updates the Piano Roll Editor to display the contents of all selected regions.
  • 7. Re: 2 issues opening score
    musicspirit Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)

    greetings MN with great respect, I dont think you have fully explored my suggestion

     

    Have a look at the 4 Screen Shots below in Clockwise Order:

     

    1 - Arrange Window 1 has 6 tracks:  2 x Piano, 2 x Bass and 2 x Alto Sax

     

    According to my method above I made a screenset for each group of Instruments..  ( you could do the same with your Violins 1 & 2 etc)

     

    2 - Next snap is Screenset 2 with its Name - Pianos ALL

     

    3 - Next snap ( bottom Right) is Screenset 3 - Basses ALL

     

    4 - Next snap ( bottom Left) is Screenset 4 - Altos ALL

     

    Now I can go instantly from one Score Set to another, insert phrases etc simply by moving from Screenset to Screen Set

     

    * * *

     

    ...though you seem to want to be able to do with with the Piano Roll - and seem to know how to do this with the Piano Roll !.... but not with the Score Window.

     

    For me it is the other way round - I would like to be able to SAVE a Piano Roll window which displays just those instruments in a sub group in order to be able to change notes in the Piano Roll.

     

    Am going to check this question out on Logic Pro Help as well...

     

    * * *

     

    So to sum up: anyone know how to save a Screen Set which will display instruments grouped in the PIANO ROLL in the same way that they are grouped in the Score Window?

     

    NB - there is one key problem with seeing multiple instruments in the PIANO ROLL is that they are all on the same grid .. which means that notes of the SAME PITCH will not be visible in the same way that they are in the Score Window with multiple parts.. though this is fine if you are dealing with a group of instruments who are never going to be playing the same note at any time

     

    Best

     

    MS

     

    Screen Sets.png

  • 8. Re: 2 issues opening score
    mnstudio Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    1 - Arrange Window 1 has 6 tracks:  2 x Piano, 2 x Bass and 2 x Alto Sax

     

    According to my method above I made a screenset for each group of Instruments..  ( you could do the same with your Violins 1 & 2 etc)

     

    2 - Next snap is Screenset 2 with its Name - Pianos ALL

     

    3 - Next snap ( bottom Right) is Screenset 3 - Basses ALL

     

    4 - Next snap ( bottom Left) is Screenset 4 - Altos ALL

     

    Now I can go instantly from one Score Set to another, insert phrases etc simply by moving from Screenset to Screen Set

    And if I have to open, say,  Piano 1 and Alto Sax1? I have to save another screenset.. And if I have to open Piano 2 Jazz bass? Another... and so on....

    What I want to say is: I change continuosly set, so I should save all combinations... Imagine if you have an orchestra of 25/30 elements..... It's a nightmare...

    That's why I like to use cmd-3.. it gives me what I want instantaneously... but it doesn't work in toggle score.... and it is quite strange... don't you think?