6 Replies Latest reply: Nov 27, 2012 6:45 AM by leighbeynon2002
leighbeynon2002 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

this is a big expensive move for me, i can use edu discount but i noticed the mac book pro seemed to jump in price this week,

should i wait until after christmas to purchase or even when logic 10 is available ?

i want to work with and learn logic, thinking about the lowest version of the mac book then i will upgrade the ram myself,

or even get a refurbished one from apple like the quad core i7 but then i guess there is no edu discount.

just wanted some advice really, shall i wait until logic 10 is out so i can get this in my total purchase ?


MacBook Pro
  • 1. Re: moving from ableton pc to logic mac
    James Holloway Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    I don't think anyone outside Apple knows when Logic X is gonna be out so you may be waiting a while. I think a better question is, what does Logic offer your music creation that Live doesn't, and is it worth the investment in new software plus all new AU plugins plus the time spent in learning a software program that is way more complex than Live?

  • 2. Re: moving from ableton pc to logic mac
    leighbeynon2002 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    well i dont mind learning to use logic, thats something i would enjoy and at the same time maybe feel frustated but its part of the process. I have listend to tracks made with logic and tracks not made with logic and overall the onboard sounds seem to be a higher standard without spending hours with eq, fx etc

    I like the way the ultrabeat looks and works, like the synths logic has. Ableton is incredible but you still have to buy ext plugs, which i have. Also ive had a pc for years and while the cost is low im sick of blue screens freezing etc. I want stability plus i can run Ableton while learning logic rather than just go right into making music with logic and nothing else.

  • 3. Re: moving from ableton pc to logic mac
    James Holloway Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    Good luck... I use both. I like Ableton as a sketchpad for its ease of its use and some of its features (eg Warp) are marginalyl better in some applications than analagous ones in Apple. Logic's plugins and instruments are on the whole superior and it's much better for audio. That said, if I worked exclusively with beats/synths I don't know how much I'd open Logic. Your mileage may vary.

     

    One thing I would recommend. If you've purchased a lot of plugins/VIs for your PC rig, make sure they're availavle as Audio Units (AU) and that you can load them onto your new Mac without additional costs.

  • 4. Re: moving from ableton pc to logic mac
    leighbeynon2002 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ok many thanks, yeah the main vst i would move over would be Komplete 8 and Halion sonic,

    i think the rest i could live without really, i may wait till after christmas as the price for the mac books did increase on the apple site which is a little off putting.

    Can i ask why you say you may not open logic that much just using beats / synths ?

    the rhodes plug seems very solid and for audio vocal files im sure logic would be useful.

  • 5. Re: moving from ableton pc to logic mac
    James Holloway Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)

    Yeah -- for beats/electronica using only VIs, Ableton does everything I need it to do, and the workflow is a bit better for improvising. I don't use Ableton's instruments; like you, I run NI's Kontakt. Plugins, 99% of the time I'm using Universal Audio. However, for audio -- guitars/vox etc, which is what I work with mainly, being in the metal genre -- I'd never use Live

     

    That said, what I'll often do is develop a basic drum pattern/layers of synths and whatnot in Live, then bounce the tracks, import to Logic and there add guitars/bass/vox and do the final mixdown there. It works for me and my group of "clients" seem happy with the results so everybody wins. It's whatever will work best for you, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. best of luck.

  • 6. Re: moving from ableton pc to logic mac
    leighbeynon2002 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thanks james, this makes sense and i agree you have to find out what works best for yourself.

    I dont want to buy a mac book though and it runs out of power, i was thinking get the i5 dual core and just upgrade the ram myself to keep costs down, hopefully the i5 will be stable and powerful enough for quite some time, fingers crossed !