12 Replies Latest reply: Nov 27, 2012 11:41 AM by drdocument
thejordanelyse18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Do I have to have Snow Leopard before I can upgrade to Mountain Lion? Or can I just upgrade to Mountain Lion? I am needing to download iMovie, but I can't until I upgrade my system. I have an old version I guess.


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  • 1. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (41,525 points)

    You need Snow Leopard 10.6.8 to get the App Store to purchase and install Mountain Lion,

     

    Allan

  • 2. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    thejordanelyse18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am pretty sure I have 10.6.8, so does that mean that it is Snow Leopard? Sorry for all the questions, I am not the best at Mac things...

  • 3. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    drdocument Level 4 Level 4 (2,995 points)

    Yes, 10.6.8 is Snow Leopard. Be sure by choosing About This Mac from the Apple menu.

  • 4. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    thejordanelyse18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks so much! I am in the process of downloading Mountain Lion. About how long should I expect it to take? Do you know?

  • 5. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    drdocument Level 4 Level 4 (2,995 points)

    Congrats! The progress bar in the App Store should give you a general idea, but there are so many variables it can't be very accurate.

     

    You do have a full current backup, right? If not, pause the download and make one, then resume.

     

    As a matter of fact, you might pause the download and first read this and follow its suggestions.

  • 6. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    thejordanelyse18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks so much!

  • 7. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    You can also let the download finish before installing ML. What it will do when it gets done downloading is automatically start the install. You'll get a splash screen for ML. It won't go any further until you tell it to. So instead, press Command+Q to quit.

     

    The full ML installer will stay on the hard drive in the Applications folder. From there, I would first back it up to an external drive so you have it for future use. Then you don't have to wait for it to download again. You can even delete the copy from the hard drive at that point and run the install from the external drive.

     

    Of course, as mentioned, make a backup of your drive in its current state first. If anything goes wrong installing ML, you'll have an easy way to restore it.

  • 8. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    drdocument Level 4 Level 4 (2,995 points)

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    You can also let the download finish before installing ML. What it will do when it gets done downloading is automatically start the install. You'll get a splash screen for ML. It won't go any further until you tell it to. So instead, press Command+Q to quit.

    This is of course accurate. Thanks.

    My problem is that if I'm not mistaken this is the last point at which one can quit the installer, and if something diverts my attention I am then committed and lose the opportunity to save a copy of the installer or do something else which I may have wanted to do pre-install (such as verify compatibility of third-party software).

     

    I would like to see an "Install Later" button added. I think I'll submit feedback on that.

  • 9. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    My problem is that if I'm not mistaken this is the last point at which one can quit the installer, and if something diverts my attention I am then committed and lose the opportunity to save a copy of the installer or do something else which I may have wanted to do pre-install (such as verify compatibility of third-party software).

    Correct. It will just sit there until you tell it to proceed or quit. But yes, once you start, you're committed. The script in the installer only self deletes from the Applications folder, where of course the download goes to. You can run the same installer from another drive and it will still be there when it finishes.

    I would like to see an "Install Later" button added. I think I'll submit feedback on that.

    Good thought. I think a lot of people would. If for no other reason than to avoid losing a 4+GB download you may have waited hours for, only to discover afterwards it's no longer in the Applications folder.

  • 10. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    drdocument Level 4 Level 4 (2,995 points)

    Kurt Lang wrote:

     

    My problem is that if I'm not mistaken this is the last point at which one can quit the installer, and if something diverts my attention I am then committed and lose the opportunity to save a copy of the installer or do something else which I may have wanted to do pre-install (such as verify compatibility of third-party software).

    Correct. It will just sit there until you tell it to proceed or quit. But yes, once you start, you're committed. The script in the installer only self deletes from the Applications folder, where of course the download goes to. You can run the same installer from another drive and it will still be there when it finishes.

    I would like to see an "Install Later" button added. I think I'll submit feedback on that.

    Good thought. I think a lot of people would. If for no other reason than to avoid losing a 4+GB download you may have waited hours for, only to discover afterwards it's no longer in the Applications folder.

    Another idea:

    I realize everything done to "protect" us from our own rashness or carelessness adds to the cost, but perhaps a mandatory checklist in which every box must be checked before the "Install" button will work, something like:

    __ I have a current complete backup

    __ I have updated all software and it is all compabile with this OS version, including third-party extensions, preference panes and login items

    __ I have verified both the boot partition and boot volume with Disk Utility

    __ (etc.)

     

    Then if all boxes not checked, the button at the bottom of the pane would read "Save Installer in Applications and Quit for Later Install." And only if all boxes were checked would the button change to "Install."

     

    Just a thought.

     

    I try to remember to check Mac reputable news sites for tips before applying an update, especially a major one, but sometimes I forget, or excitement gets the better of me. (sigh)

  • 11. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    Kurt Lang Level 7 Level 7 (31,995 points)

    I realize everything done to "protect" us from our own rashness or carelessness adds to the cost, but perhaps a mandatory checklist in which every box must be checked before the "Install" button will work, something like:

    __ I have a current complete backup

    __ I have updated all software and it is all compatible with this OS version, including third-party extensions, preference panes and login items

    __ I have verified both the boot partition and boot volume with Disk Utility

    __ (etc.)

    A nice thought, but people would ignore it the same way they never read software license agreements. They'd just check them all without doing any of the steps so they could proceed. Some would take it to heart and be wise enough to follow the list, but I would bet most wouldn't.

  • 12. Re: Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion
    drdocument Level 4 Level 4 (2,995 points)

    Kurt Lang wrote:

    A nice thought, but people would ignore it the same way they never read software license agreements. They'd just check them all without doing any of the steps so they could proceed. Some would take it to heart and be wise enough to follow the list, but I would bet most wouldn't.

    Probably true. But it would be really nice for it to be obvious that "Install" means "Install now and delete installer". With perhaps a second button to "Install Later (Saves installer in Applications."