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  • 210. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,695 points)

    a2next wrote:

     

      You must have your brains hanging in `iClouds` to think that this is everything-else-in-the-world's problem and not an Apple problem, iPhone5 bluetooth doesn't work with almost any bluetooth device we've heard of, but the older iphones work just fine.

     

    How many do you want?

     

    Many people here have reported their iPhone 5s and older iPhones with iOS 6 work perfectly with, among others:

     

    * Toyota FJ Cruiser head end

    * Ford Microsoft Sync head ends

    * A variety of other devices from various other manufacturers

     

    "Older" phones work because they don't support the latest protocols - but software phones will be updated and eventually those phones won't work with those devices either.

     

    For example, Android phones with Google's media player don't support AVRCP 1.3 or 1.4 yet, but work is ongoing to make that happen.

     

    If it doesn't do what you need it to, return it - that's why Apple has such a liberal return policy.

  • 211. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    a2next Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Your explanations make sense and if I was wrong I'd still fault Apple for this matter, they are selling this product to millions of people and a note  to make them aware that -some older BT devices might not work properly just yet with iPhone5's BT v4 until later updates will be issued by those manufacturers- would've helped, somewhere written on the box or in the stores or talked about it at an event.. and these discussions would've not happen and some customers would've not lost trust in Apple for this, and so on.. you know, something explained a little official would've helped. I don't want to spend again on a (pricey) newer version of sennheiser bluetooth that might be compatible, just because I have a new phone.

  • 212. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    supersparksteve Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Well in my Nissan Pathfinder 2011, it works when I get in the  vehicle 8 out 10 times.

    Once it pairs it's fine until maybe the next time.

    so when it fails whose fault is it.

    All other iPhones worked 100% until this 5.

  • 213. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    a2next Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    (refering to my earlier post)

    And this concludes that  Apple only cares about making money in big figures and not too much about it's customers.

  • 214. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    gatorsm Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a 2010 Mazda 3 hacthback and got an iphone 5 a few days ago. I had an iphone 4 paired to my car with no issues other than no music info showing on the cars screen. Fast forward to the iphone 5 pairing and the screen showed "err" when I tried pairing. I finally took the glove box out and unplugged the bluetooth module for 30 seconds. After plugging it back in, I was able to pair it successfuly. I hope this helps.

  • 215. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,695 points)

    a2next wrote:

     

    (refering to my earlier post)

    And this concludes that  Apple only cares about making money in big figures and not too much about it's customers.

     

    No, Apple cares about current standards and new products coming out that take advantage of those things.

     

    They're not willing to limit their products and/or interoperability by using only old protocols and standards, no matter how "compatible" they are.

  • 216. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    jenrick9193 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok-If you only care about the handsfree portion of pairing and no music streaming-I have a toyota tacoma 2012 that I have had success pairing for more than one day, I unsuccessfully tried to pair it as an internal Bt device and would experence all the previously listed problems.  I followed all of the workarounds including renaming my device in itunes, initializing my car stereo, deleting all other devices, giving my device a unique name, none of those worked for more than a day.  This time I paired it as phone only, no music streaming.  It works as a handsfree phone now even with siri commands.  I have to plug my audio cable in the speaker jack of the phone to listen to music through the radio but the phone works to make calls and recieve them as wel as read and reply to texts.  To hear maps read aloud I have to have the audio cable and my radio on aux just like the music.  Still my phone works to make and recieve clear calls (none of the choppiness and i experenced before) through BT which is all I really care about.

  • 217. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    jenrick9193 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok-If you only care about the handsfree portion of pairing and no music streaming-I have a toyota tacoma 2012 that I have had success pairing for more than one day, I unsuccessfully tried to pair it as an internal Bt device and would experence all the previously listed problems.  I followed all of the workarounds including renaming my device in itunes, initializing my car stereo, deleting all other devices, giving my device a unique name, none of those worked for more than a day.  This time I paired it as phone only, no music streaming.  It works as a handsfree phone now even with siri commands.  I have to plug my audio cable in the speaker jack of the phone to listen to music through the radio but the phone works to make calls and recieve them as wel as read and reply to texts.  To hear maps read aloud I have to have the audio cable and my radio on aux just like the music.  Still my phone works to make and recieve clear calls (none of the choppiness and i experenced before) through BT which is all I really care about.

  • 218. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    Flashx1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    "They're not willing to limit their products and/or interoperability by using only old protocols and standards, no matter how "compatible" they are."

     

    Where does it say that on the Apple site, please direct me to where Apple says they are abandoning"old standards", like Bluetooth? I'm sure the press will have a field day if "Apple" actually said something like that.

     

    It's contradictory to say you comply to standards, but will not restrict yourself to compatibility.

     

    If you sign up to a standard like Bluetooth, you do not get to pick and choose how it works or what you work with - you either comply, or you do not.

     

    Bluetooth 4 is backwards compaitble with all previous versions of Bluetooth, if you didn't implement that, you are not compliant!

     

    That means you cannot claim to be Bluetooth compliant, if you do not comply .. do you understand the implications of that? 

     

    This is an Apple problem, their implementation is poor, the fixes you see are just the vagaries of their implementation, some things work some do not, that's hardly compliance to a standard. My understanding is they stopped using the Bluetooth chipset on 4S and 5, and implemented Bluetooth in firmware on the Airplay chipset since that's the hot item in China, the world's biggest market. When they used the Bluetooth chipset, they worked just fine, if they had continued to use the Bluetooth chip, and had problems they could blame Bluetooth, but they didn't so it is their problem.

  • 219. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    deggie Level 8 Level 8 (46,495 points)

    What is an "Airplay" Chipset?

  • 220. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,695 points)

    Flashx1 wrote:

     

    Bluetooth 4 is backwards compaitble with all previous versions of Bluetooth, if you didn't implement that, you are not compliant!

     

    That means you cannot claim to be Bluetooth compliant, if you do not comply .. do you understand the implications of that?

     

    Reread what you wrote and think; this is what I've been stating all along.

     

    Apple implemented the new standard.

     

    Many older devices can't deal with the new standard despite the fact that the new standard is supposed to be backwards compatible.

     

    That is why the playback devices' manufacturers are developing fixes.

     

    A perfect example is the headend in older Mazda 3s; when Apple implemented AVRCP 1.4, it turned out that there was code in them that apparently checked to make sure AVRCP was version 1.3 or below:

     

    We discussed this issue with the manufacturer. They acknowledged there is a critical bug on their platform, as they require the phone to support no more than AVRCP 1.3. Because iOS supports AVRCP 1.4 since 5.0, they do not enable & use any AVRCP 1.3 feature. The bug has been fixed on their newer platforms.

     

    Whoops.

     

    We've got the same situation here; the standard is backwards compatible, but various vendors implementation of that standard apparently didn't get things right.

     

    Apple isn't going to indiscriminately break devices, but if the standard says its backwards compatible, Apple is going to implement the new standard for its features, not remain stuck at some old standard because some devices didn't properly implement things and they actually aren't playing properly with the new standard.

     

    Apple codes to a given standard and expects other device makers to code to that same standard.

     

    I can give you many, many examples where this has, unfortunately, been the case and third party device makers had to fix their products.

     

    That doesn't mean Apple doesn't get things wrong now and then, but to bring this discussion full-circle, Alpine, Pioneer and others wouldn't be developing fixes for their products if the issue was that Apple hadn't properly implemented things.

  • 221. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    kaustubht Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have 2011 Honda CRV with built in Bluetooth kit. My earlier phone, low tech blackberry worked wonderfully well with it, but the brand new shiny iphone5 refuses to pair with it. It does not even recognize the Bluetooth device. Any help, suggestions will be most appreciated.

  • 222. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    Tibor64 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi,

     

    I havn't car BT set. I have only a simple BT headset. This worked fine with my old iphone4, but with new iphone 5 I have pair problem.

    Very funy, but the apple store recommendes this headset model for iphone 5!!!  http://store.apple.com/us/product/H2519VC/A/plantronics-explorer-395-bluetooth-h eadset

     

    I read some reviews under Platronics headset, and now I reckon the iphone 4S also not worked with this BT device: 

    "I had this headset with an Android phone and it worked flawlessly.  Then I got my iPhone 4s...  It doesn't stay paired with the iPhone. You can set it up and make a call and it will work fine.  However, the minute you turn off the headset, you lose the pairing.  You then have to go through and set it up all over again.  That pretty much defeats the whole purpose of a Bluetooth headset!  I still gave the product three stars because I'd bet the pairing is more of an Apple issue than a Plantronics issue."


    My problem is same.

     

    Iphone4S also containes BT 4.0, and Apple didn't correct this problem so far, and I think never be correct it...

     

    I think in this topic everybody changed from iphone4 (not from iphone4S) to iphone5, becuse the problem is still existed with iphone 4S.

     

     


  • 223. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    davborre Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just to clarify, there are two distinct problems here.

     

    1) People are experiencing problems when switching from iPhone 4 to iPhone 5. These users are switching to BT 4.0 and the devices that they are trying to pair are experiencing compatibility problems. This is most likely a problem in the device's code.

     

    2) Peoble who are experiencing problems with the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 and using BT 4.0 compatible devices. Both of these devices use BT 4.0, the problem here has to be the new operating system. My iPhone 4S worked perfectly with my car (Cx-5 2013) until the new iOS came out. Since then there has been a loss of functionality but it still pairs. Clearly this is not due to the use of BT 4.0 since my device worked prior to the new update.

  • 224. Re: iPhone5 bluetooth not working
    RobertBrinkman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Regarding Apple's "Standard"

     

    You had said....

    "Apple implemented the new standard.

    Many older devices can't deal with the new standard despite the fact that the new standard is supposed to be backwards compatible." ....

     

    Well I have a brand new 13" MBP Retina and a brand new iPhone5 yet my iPhone will not connect to my MBP saying it is "not supported." How two brand new flagship devices will not connect together and claim to be "not supported" is definitely an Apple problem. If Apple implemented this new standard and the vendors are at fault, why won't my two devices connect to one another after multiple restores and resetting of network settings?


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