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  • 15. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)

    Alley_Cat wrote:

     

    I wonder if search whole library accesses iCloud for nondownloaded content slowing it down.

     

    My strong impression is that in my case it is "live" searching 69,627 tunes for the letter "a" (for instance) in song, artist, album, and composer, and then works to display them and their artwork, and this bogs down what used to be a simple search. Then it repeats the boondoggle with the next letter in the search, and so on.

  • 16. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Genettic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My impression of turning off "Search Entire Library" seems to be that it reverts back to iTunes 10's method of searching (only search in current playlist/view, show results in main panel instead of new fancy dropdown, etc.). So, not any worse off than we were yesterday, I suppose.

  • 17. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    1st Gen Jobs Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    What have they done.  The search in the Store is even worse.  How cab apple release a Major new version withou testing properly.  This isnt some rarely used part of the prgramme this is one of the main aspects.  They should be embarrased by this.  Soon there won't be any senior management left to sack. 

  • 18. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (17,035 points)

    1st Gen Jobs wrote:

     

    What have they done.  The search in the Store is even worse.  How cab apple release a Major new version withou testing properly.

    There is precedent

  • 19. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)

    Genettic wrote:

     

    My impression of turning off "Search Entire Library" seems to be that it reverts back to iTunes 10's method of searching (only search in current playlist/view, show results in main panel instead of new fancy dropdown, etc.). So, not any worse off than we were yesterday, I suppose.

     

    I'm in my Louis Armstrong playlist, which contains 1,211 tunes. I deselect Search Entire Library and search "angel." Every tune or album in the Louis Armstrong playlist with the word "angel" quickly appears, but no song from any other playlist. Staying in the same playlist, I reselect Search Entire Library, erase and reenter "angel." (If I don't erase it nothing changes. Bug.) Then iTunes arduously searches the entire library, finds, and displays, in a glitzy panel, a sample of everything that has "angel" in it, including albums, songs, movies, etc. Then I click on one choice -- say, songs -- and it shows a list with artwork icons and a plus to the left of the icon which I have to click if I want to be taken to the song file in the Songs view. It is the effort that goes into finding and displaying that showy list that bogs down iTunes. That is a far cry from the way prior versions of iTunes searched, and it takes much longer and more steps. It is, however, much, much prettier.

     

    If you happen to stop at "a" rather than quickly typing "angel," you will wait for iTunes to locate every item that contains the letter "a," which takes a lot longer than 20 seconds, and there is no way to interrupt that search.

  • 20. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    macCesar Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Turning off 'Search Entire Library' is the only know solution for now until Apple fix it.

     

    But the problem IS that iTunes 11 cannot do a 'live' search on a very large library.

  • 21. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)

    macCesar wrote:

     

    Turning off 'Search Entire Library' is the only know solution for now until Apple fix it.

     

    But the problem IS that iTunes 11 cannot do a 'live' search on a very large library.

     

    I want to know how it is that some people are apparently, contrary to logic, searching their entire libraries with Search Entire Library deselected, when I can only search the playlist I'm within if I do the same thing. What are you doing that I am not?

     

    If the option was Turn Off Live Search, I could understand, but it is doing for me exactly as I might expect. I turn off Search Entire Library and it will not search the entire library, live or not.

     

    Someone please duplicate exactly what I described a couple of posts back -- searching from within a playlist with Search Entire Library off -- and report your result.

  • 22. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    JoeDiBease Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    It works completely fine on my iMac

  • 23. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)

    JoeDiBease wrote:

     

    It works completely fine on my iMac

     

    You are a bit short on details. For instance, the number of tunes in your collection; if you have the files on an external drive; how you are searching....

  • 24. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    pixeljammer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    When I turn off "Seach Entire Library", but still have "Music" selected in the sidebar, iTunes does indeed search all the tracks in Music, but excludes all other categories (TV Shows, etc.). If I turn "Search Entire Library" back on, it searches all categories, and it's excruciatingly slow (30 seconds).

     

    If I'm in a playlist with "Seach Entire Library" turned OFF, it searches just within that playlist, and it isn't exactly fast (~3-5 seconds).

    If I'm in a playlist with "Seach Entire Library" turned ON, it searches the entire Library and it's excruciatingly slow (30 seconds.)

     

    Library is 126,750 songs/1.740GB on an external drive. Spotlight has indexed the drive.

     

    OS 10.7.5/24" iMac 3GHz Duo/8Gb RAM

     

    Other than the slowdown and the little goofy pop-out list of results a la Spotlight, search seems to work the same as it did in the last version of iTunes.

  • 25. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Satchmo Level 4 Level 4 (1,245 points)

    pixeljammer wrote:

     

    When I turn off "Seach Entire Library", but still have "Music" selected in the sidebar, iTunes does indeed search all the tracks in Music, but excludes all other categories (TV Shows, etc.). If I turn "Search Entire Library" back on, it searches all categories, and it's excruciatingly slow (30 seconds).

     

    If I'm in a playlist with "Seach Entire Library" turned OFF, it searches just within that playlist, and it isn't exactly fast (~3-5 seconds).

    If I'm in a playlist with "Seach Entire Library" turned ON, it searches the entire Library and it's excruciatingly slow (30 seconds.)

     

    Library is 126,750 songs/1.740GB on an external drive. Spotlight has indexed the drive.

     

    OS 10.7.5/24" iMac 3GHz Duo/8Gb RAM

     

    Other than the slowdown and the little goofy pop-out list of results a la Spotlight, search seems to work the same as it did in the last version of iTunes.

     

    You describe ways in which it is profoundly different and then say it works the same. You are right that with Songs selected it does search the entire collection, without the awesomely useless "pop-out list," even with Search Entire Library deselected. But it is still slower at that than searching used to be, and it requires some prep steps that weren't formerly needed. When I look at Songs view it also has a three panel window at the top, with Genres, Artists, and Albums, which is unnecessary clutter. Is there a way to get rid of that window?

  • 26. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    Darth Level 3 Level 3 (620 points)

    I've got roughly 15,000 songs on an external drive and I can search my entire library with nearly instantaneous results. No issues here. Machine is a mid-2012 15" MBP w/max RAM. Just FYI, iTunes 11 is using around 500MB of RAM. Wow, pixeljammer has a lot of songs - what do you even do with 126750 songs?!

  • 27. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    magnusbl Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    For all I hate this new version, the search is working fine for me with a 200GB library.  It is on an SSD local drive, however.

  • 28. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    pixeljammer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    View>Hide Column Browser

     

    It was there in the last version, too.


    The only "prep step" is to turn off "Search Entire Library".

     

    I don't think regular searching is any slower than it used to be.

  • 29. Re: iTunes 11 for Mac:  Search is completely broken.
    espyem Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If you execute your search on the "Music" list, it will search the entire music library, but, presumably, not movies, podcasts, etc.