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ipad opening old versions even though deleted - can't view new versions!

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bett n_ Calculating status...
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Oct 30, 2012 9:32 AM

I am designing and creating iBooks and need to show them to my editor to before they are finished - I export them, upload to drop box and she downloads them onto her iPad 3 Version 6.0.

 

When I make the necessary changes, i duplicate the file, rename it, and re upload to dropbox. ie 'Joe Blogs 2', that way I have many versions to refer back to if necessary, and i label each one on the cover to save confusion.

 

Since the new update for iBooks Author we have had some pretty big problems, I have edited, exported and uploaded the books as usual, my Editor has downloaded them onto her ipad, but every time we tap on the new title to open the book 'Joe Blogs 2' it opens an old version 'Joe Blogs 1', even if the old one is deleted from the ipad, also, even if we upload a completely different book it still opens 'Joe Blogs 1' I have changed the titles, and file names and it has made no difference.  we are both using iBook latest update.

 

NOTE: All books were created from an original template created in iBooks Author version 1, from the 'Basic' template. I have been using this template because I don't know how to recreate it - the are no chapters it starts with 1 page then has sections so that it ends up with a table of contents which looks like this, which means that the 'chapter' (section) title can be tapped and go straight to the section, which is something I would lose if I started the books from scratch (which I obviously don't want to do)

 

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  • K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,220 points)

    About templates....

     

    Not sure what you mean about recreating the Basic template - you have to pick a template to start a new book. Why start with a template and try to make it like another...just start with the one you want.

     

    Also, if you start with a supplied template and then customize it, you can use the 'File/Save as template' menu to have available next time.

  • K T Level 7 Level 7 (23,220 points)

    Again, you can make your own templates. Using copy/paste can lead to issues such as what you're seeing.

     

    I recommend working with fresh, basic books to confirm control, including w/your dropbox scheme, to help baseline the process first.

     

    Once you're comfortable, move to one of your own books, pref. one that hasn't been subjected to heavy doses of copy/paste. Stick to linear editing and learn the tool without relying on dumping buckets of content into a custom template , which is a fast path to a corrupted file in many cases, I think.

  • john3cdp Calculating status...

    An explanation and possible workaround has been provided by KayNeine here:

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/20437836#20437836

     

    This certainly seems to tally with my experience and the hidden metadata theory does seem to answer why it could be happening. Just need Apple to acknowledge and address the problem.

     

    As this Support Community obviously isn't moderated by Apple, can I suggest as many people as possible use the iBooks Author Feedback form to report their issues. Hopefully then, someone at Apple might take note and try and rectify these problems.

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ibooks-author.html

     

    The link above is available from the iBooks Author App in the menu: iBooks Author > Provide iBooks Author Feedback.

  • john3cdp Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Further to my earlier post we have now completed a test by saving our original document as a template, then creating a new document from the template, making necessary changes and saving as a new file. We can now upload the two separate versions to our iPad.

     

    You cannot "duplicate" the file in any way, either by the File > Duplicate method from within iBooks Author or by simply Duplicating the original .iba file in the Finder, as this will cause the problem outlined above. By Duplicating you are obviously also duplicating this "hidden metadata" which is stored somewhere within the file which iBooks on the iPad is using to identify the documents. So unless Apple update the software to allow us to change that metadata we are stuck to using the Templates route. This works for what we are trying to do, which is create different language variants of the same book.

     

    However, I'm not so sure how this will help you with keeping Versions of your documents. Sounds a similar workflow to how we've been used to working for years. Apple are trying to get us to use their "new way" of Versioning, which to my mind doesn't work in a real world workflow. Their "Versioning" does not work on Servers for a start, so you can only keep your documents locally.

     

    But then, not sure why you would necessarily want all the versions on your iPad. You could keep versions of the .iba files by using the Duplication method and then export to your iBook, but it would mean you would have to delete the old version from your iPad each time before uploading the amended version.

     

    Reading your second post again, not sure whether you haven't already covered all this. But by working from a Template it has worked for us.

     

    Hope something in there is of some help. Good luck!!!

     

    regards

    John

  • john3cdp Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Hi bett n_

     

    Glad I was of "some" help!!! 

     

    I agree with your editors point that it may be an "intentional hurdle" added by Apple. Lets hope not and they fix it soon.

     

    We are not producing books for sale, but using iBooks Author as a way to create product data information for sales force use. So not as if Apple would make their 30% cut from us anyway!!!

     

    Would probably have preferred to use Adobe's DPS service from within inDesign had it not been so cost prohibitive!!! 

     

    Regards

    John

  • john3cdp Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Maybe not for ePub (not too familiar with that personally) but for iPad Digital Publications you have to buy into a subscription package for DPS which is many thousands of pounds. You can buy an individual app licence at £300 a pop, but if you make any edits to the final product you have to pay another £300 to submit an update. Everything seems to be tailored for large publishing houses producing magazines for subscription.

     

    As I mentioned, we are not producing a product for sale and do not want to go through the Apple Store to distribute the product as it is sensitive material intended only for a sales team to use on the road.

     

    Finding a solution that we can use to create a book and just upload to your iPad has proven to be a rather frustrating experience. We thought iBooks Author might be that product, but it is very limited and extremely buggy.

     

    I've now got the rather daunting task of producing our book in another 7 languages including Russian!! 

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